Why do newbies lose?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by ninZa.co, Sep 15, 2023.

  1. zghorner

    zghorner

    why would anyone trying out basketball for the first time get absolutely dunked on by professional athletes?

    same thing.
     
    #21     Sep 15, 2023
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  2. I agree with you on both. The "trade room" industry is really a sales room industry and it is unregulated, disingenuous, deceitful and deceptive. The methods, strategies and education it sells to trade futures is unsubstantiated, and not verified or authenticated to be profitable. We should blame them and not the newbies. My trade group maintains an exhaustive list of all sites, well over 2000, and less than five actually trade in real time and maintain a track record.

    And to some degree if you do not have forward walk real time data s to verify the worthiness of your technique, few will be inclined to listen. But there are real advantages to having such data and it is not to convince others. I have two years of forward walk data generated from robots and it tells me what days are chronically and consistently most profitable, what indices within those days are most profitable and what is that profitability, does maximal profit occur with longs or shorts, what is the relative profitability before and or after the US market opens and what are the size of the targets and stops for the individual trades that are most profitable. And I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.
     
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    #22     Sep 15, 2023
  3. mikeriley

    mikeriley

    Ha ha so RIGHT!

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    #23     Sep 15, 2023
  4. %%
    Even worse LOL ;
    because more millionaires from the stock market than pro basket ball, i figure.
    There fore it's easier/ to take to big a risk in market \with so may known millionaires over 200 + year history capital markets.
    Adding to the complexity, single stock risk + rewards...............................................Sept selloffs ..............................
     
    #24     Sep 15, 2023
  5. Jzwu2017

    Jzwu2017

    Trading is like any performance sport. What do you expect if a newbie jumps in an NBA basketball game?

    I admit that I myself thought it was easy and blindly jumped in about 10 years ago. Still learning today.
     
    #25     Sep 15, 2023
  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    My newbie day trading experience (2010-2013):

    1. I was clueless. I didn't know what I didn't know.

    2. I thought indicators would lead me to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

    3. When that failed, I thought I could predict, using "fancy mathematical algorithms".

    4. I became your profits provider.

    My newbie day trading experience today (2023 - ):

    1. I now know what I don't know.

    2. I now know my indicators and fancy maths are worthless.

    3. I am now doing a lot better, in paper (demo) trades. :cool:
     
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    #26     Sep 15, 2023
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  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    Where is the windows key? i can't find it, on my MacBook Pro.
     
    #27     Sep 15, 2023
  8. taowave

    taowave

    I really hope you turn it around..You are one of the few guys who admit that they arent profitable....yet

    Have you read "Best Loser Wins"??


     
    #28     Sep 15, 2023
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  9. except for the fact that basketball is physical and trading is not I think there is an analogy between the two. 99.99% of all high school basketball players do not make it professionally, a similar failure rate is also bantered around for newbie traders. Successful basketball players and successful traders must have some form of true talent, which can be observed, measured, is dependable, is extremely rare and is not transferable.
     
    #29     Sep 15, 2023
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    #30     Sep 15, 2023