why do many traders give seminars etc..?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by chipper, Apr 8, 2008.

  1. I think that I can see what you are driving at Surf.

    I believe that addressing the gain/risk ratio before anything else is what establishes a Trader from a Chartist.

    Once the Trader has developed a strategy that keeps him/her within the bands of a high gain /risk ratio they can then commence to increase the trade size. This is where the money lies.

    As the trade size increases the task of the Trader is to remain within the gain/risk bands and size will take care of the rest more or less.
    In reality it just brings you to the coalface of another set of issues.

    I think that this is the point that TD is making.

    This is a very purist point of view of course, the reality of trading size is not so simple, but never the less the Traders roadmap looks different from that of the Chartist.

    The great difference IMO is that the Trader knows he/she is a Trader because they think like a trader.
    The Chartist merely thinks they are trading.

    regards
    f9
     
    #121     Apr 9, 2008
  2. Unnecessary - all you need is an independently documented track record. There are a number of sites that do this.

    Or, a lengthy free trial, that correlates with a website track record.
     
    #122     Apr 9, 2008
  3. Dem bons be pretty today huh!!
     
    #123     Apr 9, 2008
  4. precisely.
     
    #124     Apr 9, 2008

  5. Indeed, such as Collective2 ,any others besides C2 ?
     
    #125     Apr 9, 2008

  6. does any vendor even offer this? why don't vendors prove their worth on C2 or the like?


    surf:confused:
     
    #126     Apr 9, 2008

  7. yes, only for marginal profitable traders it makes sense to supplement their income with seminars , courses,etc...
     
    #127     Apr 9, 2008
  8. I have never seen a vendor doing this, let me know if you find one. (Imagine the credibility a vendor would gain from a profitable independently verified track record)
    Why they don't do that ?> nothing to prove

    It makes sense ,no ?
     
    #128     Apr 9, 2008
  9. Don't be confused because most traders don't use a mechanical trading system which might explain why most traders don't use C2 or the like.

    Then again, you already knew that from prior discussions involving rcanfiel when he (a mechanical system designer vendor) wonder why most traders didn't entertain his request to reveal their system to him although those discussions wasn't about vendors.

    :cool:

    Anyways, brokerage statements along with brokerage statements/testimonials by vendor clients or any trader should be suitable for situations where a trader isn't using a mechanical system...

    Although rcanfiel strongly disagree.

    However, nothing beats proof via watching any trader trade in front of your own two eyes in person.

    P.S. rcanfiel wasn't the only vendor using C2 or the like and you already knew he was a vendor that used and heavily promoted C2.

    Mark
     
    #129     Apr 9, 2008
  10. ssss

    ssss

    fluttrader

    yes, only for marginal profitable traders it makes sense to supplement their income with seminars , courses,etc...

    fluttrader


    Do you know of any teachers that display their track record on their website ?
    *******************************************

    Today not observed by retail sector any real fortune atleast 1 mln $ ...

    Can be ,in lotto can win some untill 100 mln $ ,but retail sector is the movement in direction of lottery
    *****************************************

    Institutional yes -

    Meeted briefly

    Leonard Fisher he started J.P.Morgan ,later in 40 CEO CSFB ,
    today work for Rotshild

    Senior parner by GS(exist some 200 + ) ,35 years old , received 5 mln $ per year


    Mark Minervini is the top trader ,better as by Goldman Sachs ,but he provided some kind of payed service

    http://www.minerviniprivateaccess.com/

    Mark D.Cook is alsov USA champion
    www.markdcook.com give a teaching for money and payed serivce

    trading record displayed ...

    http://www.minerviniprivateaccess.com/examples.pdf
     
    #130     Apr 9, 2008