Why do 95 % of traders lose ?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by oilfxpro, Feb 18, 2012.

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  1. Another major problem for traders is the timing of the winning trades , they sometimes appear when the trader has had a long depressing day in front of the screen.Traders have to be in-front of screens may be 14 hours a day , otherwise they may most likely miss those two or three big winning trades.

    More than 7 hours in front of a screen is a killer.
     
    #11     Feb 18, 2012
  2. After making 44 profitable automated systems , I stopped using them on live accounts and now employ manual staff to watch the screens 24 hours a day for me.

    Another illusion why clueless traders will lose.

    http://www.fxfisherman.com/forums/f...ified-ads/10844-wanted-trading-assistant.html

    The only reason for opening this thread is to get to the bottom of

    Why most traders lose.
     
    #12     Feb 18, 2012
  3. You said it yourself...this is why they lose...if automated...the computer will not make these mistakes.
     
    #13     Feb 18, 2012
  4. monti1a

    monti1a

    lack of an "edge"..whether it be technical, insider knowledge, or fundamental...pure and simple

    cut the psycho crap....
     
    #14     Feb 18, 2012
  5. I'd say most traders lose because of reasons #3-5 of what King said. Most people give up after there first blown up account, and it was probably a small account to begin with. People have unrealistic ideas about how easy trading is and the amount of time it takes you to become profitable. Add the fact that the barriers to entry are essentially zero, you get a high failure rate.

    It normally takes at least a year or two before you can make it a full time thing. You do not need to sit in front of a monitor 14 hours a day. That is counter productive and will lead to burn out in my opinion. Watching the markets for 7 hours is also not incredibly hard. You do not need to stare at the screen constantly the whole time. Watch some tv, listen to music, or surf the internet. When you trade, you find out a lot about yourself. Make your own strategy that fits your personality and don't rely on others EVER. It is just a recipe for disaster if you take trades based on what other people say.
     
    #15     Feb 18, 2012
  6. yeah and Baron's debuttal guys get paid by sponsors.

    wtf is the edge ,please give detailed explanation.
     
    #16     Feb 18, 2012
  7. Edge is an ambiguous term on purpose. Everyone has a different edge (something that makes them profitable). It can be something singular or multiple things put together. How a person sets up their chart can be an edge. Maybe it is his psychology that is his edge, more important for discretionary traders. There is also reaction time and a person's knowledge of fundamentals or technicals. Trading is such a vast world that some of these questions can only be answered by ambiguous generalities.
     
    #17     Feb 18, 2012
  8. ammo

    ammo

    there is an edge watching the s/r on spx,eur/usd ,transports,nq es and waiting for them to trade in unison,in the trends,at the turns, after being familiar with this or any other edge,sitting and waiting for it to happen is another edge that many haven't the patience for,nor even admit it's important,95% of traders overtrade,guess
     
    #18     Feb 18, 2012
  9. monti1a

    monti1a

    Ask anyone of these guys:

    Erik Seidel

    Daniel Negreanu

    Phil Ivey

    Jamie Gold

    John Juanda
     
    #19     Feb 18, 2012
  10. and NOW? do you finally understand why 95% lose?

    you don't have to ask, all you have to do is read
     
    #20     Feb 18, 2012
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