Why do 5% of Traders Win?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by oldtime, Feb 18, 2012.

  1. I wasn't making light of it, sorry if it sounded that way, was just trying to organize replies into rules

    so rule 1 was get flat and wait
    and your rule 2 was have a plan
     
    #71     Feb 19, 2012
  2. to each his own, but my style sees it the same way you do. I am almost always in. I figure whatever I have on is probably as good as whatever new position I am going to put on, plus I save one spread and commission. Also agree on frequency of trades. I don't even have to look at the bottom line, I can just look at my trade log. If there are more trades than ususal I know it is probably a losing day.

    But that's just my style, not saying it's the only style or would work for everybody.
     
    #72     Feb 19, 2012
  3. Because 95% lose.
     
    #73     Feb 19, 2012
  4. More seriously, winners such as me are better than the 95% since we are in tune with the markets.

    If you can get your trades to make money 80% of the time and make 3x more on each trade than you loose on loossing trades, you will be a winner.

    Loosers take too much risk. I never lose more than 5% of my account on a loossing trade. It's called a stop loss.

    Winners have stop losses.
     
    #74     Feb 19, 2012
  5. That's the answer...but they are looking at PRICE it's the ONLY thing that matters


    They study price and determine probabilities of certain events occurring and many of these events have high probabilities. They place a trade and manage risk.

    In this game Price is the final arbiter.
     
    #75     Feb 19, 2012
  6. I think buying into the sales pitch "Pick winning stocks with my "Method" when the reality is on to manage your money on dealing with losers (first) and winners (second).
     
    #76     Feb 19, 2012
  7. Sometimes, people pretend to be someone they are not, just to have easy ego gratification.
     
    #77     Feb 19, 2012
  8. I agree. You have to have an extremely high win percentage if your losing trades are bigger than your winning trades.
     
    #78     Feb 19, 2012
  9. I used to follow a 'Guru' who did just that, until a few years ago he missed the biggest move in a stock that MET HIS METHOD and I was convinced he knew no more than I. I had developed my own method for finding his setups and I knew exactly what he would be looking at.

    His intra-day method was so solid, I thought if I adjusted it, it would be even better.

    After I developed my own platform I tested his method with many different types of exits on many different stocks and I was amazed at how it actually worked over a long period of time. Here he is looking for setups when he could have actually traded the same way every single day and made money...now, that's ironic.

    There are no GURU's, PRICE is KING!

    The POWER of a computer is incredible...now, I know more than the guru.
     
    #79     Feb 19, 2012
  10. .
    I'll add to that. I started out following IBD (not being critical) but they completely missed a few boats or should I say rockets. This annoyed me to no end. One stock made their top 100 (I think it came in at 65) after the stock had completely made it's run of about 2 years.
     
    #80     Feb 19, 2012