Why do 5% of Traders Win?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by oldtime, Feb 18, 2012.

  1. emg

    emg


    Those that trade in the institutional have a higher chance of being successful than those who don't.
     
    #511     Mar 6, 2012
  2. emg

    emg

     
    #512     Mar 6, 2012
  3. emg

    emg

    Another thing, the point of me showing proofs why small traders lose is to make them understand what is trading all about. Most of these newbies are duped by 3rd party educational vendors/signal providers making them believing u can make a living trading with as little as $3000.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_exchange_fraud


    Between 2001 and 2006 the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission has prosecuted more than 80 cases involving the defrauding of more than 23,000 customers who lost $350 million. From 2001 to 2007, about 26,000 people lost $460 million in forex frauds


    That is not trading.


    IF u want to become a trader, Higher Education is the path.


    Higher Education!!
     
    #513     Mar 6, 2012
  4. Who are you to say what higher education is with your background?

    Arizona? Something to do with el Hershey? :D
     
    #514     Mar 6, 2012
  5. ammo

    ammo

    very few of your ivy league idols ..morgan s, goldiie ,jpm chase know how to trade,they know how to use illegal info ,manipulation and deception,the same stuff that falls under your defraud statement, and it can be taught but it's very rare that the student would learn,you can't learn to trade from books
     
    #515     Mar 6, 2012
  6. “Before success comes in any man’s life, he is sure to meet with much temporary defeat, and, perhaps, some failure. When defeat overtakes a man, the easiest and most logical thing to do is to quit. That is exactly what the majority of men do. More than five hundred of the most successful men this country has ever known told the author their greatest success came just one step beyond the point at which defeat had overtaken them.”
    ― Napoleon Hill, Think and Grow Rich
     
    #516     Mar 6, 2012
  7. Your poor English grammar indicates that you need higher education.

    Man, get an MBA from a reputable university, like University of Phoenix, or University of Crappella.
     
    #517     Mar 7, 2012
  8. Handle123

    Handle123

    The problem of almost all that buy methods, they never had the disipline to trade whatever they made and spring for a method, and still lack disipline. Plus, we live in a world of flex, new traders don't have the ability to alter methods or identify changes have to be made. Like when markets goes into chop, targets must be lowered. new traders are much more greedy than experienced, they change targets trying to get much more, when they could have gotten 10.00 points on five trades in ES, they end up with nothing cause they were trying to make homeruns, where the experienced go home profitable.

    And $3000 is very doable, but you have to sim trade, and if you can't make profits 13 of 15 days, real time you will crumble and become bait.

    Education has much to do with investing in stocks, reading financials, but trading, good if you learn programming and have intense desires to excel with games. Trading is a game, thats it, play to win, don't get married to your trade.

    Yes, there is fraud from many venders, as they lie to sell their products and they should be fined, but there are so many greedy people who won't devote the time to overcome the intense work needed to become profitable. They rather come to this site and post thousands of reasons they can't make it.
     
    #518     Mar 8, 2012
  9. cornix

    cornix

    Very good points here. Consistent adaptation is the key to consistent profitability. When one can distinguish chop/range from the trend, she/he can manage trades differently and get optimal profit.

    Those who cannot adapt, trade the same way all the time and are doomed to have periods of serious drawdowns, because they either suffer from the trend or from the chop (depending on which kind of strategy they employ).
     
    #519     Mar 9, 2012
  10. Mysteron

    Mysteron

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    I'd say spotting opportunities that are developing and waiting for a high probability entry is important. WLT had an excessive range that day so a short entry at the right time and conditions, was likely to succeed.

    Equivalent to the obvious statement: 'let winners run and cut loosers' is the ability to take a look at one self and eliminate bad behaviour. Keep asking yourself 'what did I do wrong?', make a note of it and stop doing it.
     
    #520     Mar 10, 2012