Why did you delete the "WHY ISRAEL IS AFTER ME" thread modorator??

Discussion in 'Politics' started by WAEL012000, May 13, 2007.

  1. Israeli legal system? Oh you mean that system which is a product of a government that secretly assassinates whomever they please...

    Oh, and your initial comments of Israel never using the death penalty was a lie...when you admitted that the death penalty had been used.

    So that makes you a proven liar...

     
    #41     May 17, 2007
  2. Just keep in mind that Judaism rejects Zionism, it’s very important…
     
    #42     May 17, 2007
  3. Many Zionists don't actually practice Judaism at all...

    In this country alone, many Christians support Zionism, to fulfill in their mind what is some prophecy.

    The major opposition to Zionism is from the Orthodox fundamentalist Jews.

    When I have pointed this out in the past, the in name only Jews claim that these Orthodox Jews are crazy.

    Imagine...

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=jews+against+zionism&btnG=Google+Search

     
    #43     May 17, 2007
  4. sandaq

    sandaq

    #44     May 17, 2007
  5. Did you bother to read the link you posted? Perhaps you were too hysterical to understand it.

    Why We Went to Iran

    The recent trip of Neturei Karta leaders to Iran has evoked much in the way of hysterical comment in some quarters.

    The vicious nature of this reaction has puzzled us for some time. Why should an attempt to create goodwill between the Jewish people and the Iranian government in particular, or the Islamic world in general, be viewed as negative effort? If misunderstandings existed in the past, why should we not try to alleviate them in the present?

    If our efforts have relieved antagonism, shouldn't this be seen as a positive thing for the Jewish people and all men?

    If we are indeed concerned about the future of our relations with the Islamic world, then shouldn't all efforts be made to assure that those relations be pleasant?

    For those who took time to bypass the media blizzard of disinformation, several things about our trip should have been clear. Our position as stated throughout the conference was explicit and free of any ambiguity. We affirmed the reality of the mass murder of Jews during the Second World War. And we were not the only speakers there who did so. But (also of enormous significance) we told those assembled that the reality of the Holocaust should not be used as a pretext to strip the Palestinian people, either as individuals or collectively, of their property and land.

    It is our Torah based obligation to constantly declare before all humanity that the deeds done to the Palestinian people throughout the last century and continuing to this day are unconscionable. Our experience has shown that the fulfillment of this obligation yields only positive results.

    Further, it is our assumption that the approach of Zionism has not lessened the Jewish-Gentile antagonism but has exacerbated it. The trail of suffering created by this movement stretches back over the decades and continues to the present.

    These tragedies should come as no surprise to anyone since the Torah expressly forbids the desire or the implementation of any Jewish sovereignty over the Holy Land.

    We ask that the interested reader take the time to read the texts of the actual talks given in Tehran.

    Our beliefs were confirmed when the Iranian President Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, at our meeting with him after the December Conference, condemned anti-Semitism in no uncertain terms.

    He stated (and his words were carried by the Iranian news agency IRNAJ) that "vigilant and just human beings will not blame the Jews for the crimes committed by the fake Zionist regime and its supporters in the occupied territories, including genocide of defenseless and oppressed women and children."

    And, in contrast to the stereotype perpetrated by the would-be mind controllers of the media, the President's solution to the conflict in the Holy Land was to suggest that "a free referendum to establish a government based on the will of the Palestinian nation in which all Palestinians, including Jews, Christians and Muslims will be given the chance to vote."

    Obviously two paths lie before the Jewish people. There is the path of Zionism that summons Jews to a state of perpetual war in order to "protect" Jewry and there is the path of the Torah which calls upon us to seek peace and dialogue with all men.To us the choice is elementary.



     
    #45     May 17, 2007
  6. To better understand the Zionism source wee must go back to Akhenaton’s time and study it. They were and they are here, they operated in secrecy for very log time .
     
    #46     May 17, 2007
  7. sandaq

    sandaq

    Well you got me! I didn't bother to read this, but you know what they say - A picture is worth a thousand words.

    I did, however, read that in hebrew several months ago.

    I tend to dismiss kind words and good will when they are heard in a Holocaust deniers convention.
     
    #47     May 17, 2007
  8. Many Jews, not the Zionists of course, are peacemakers...

    It may be hard for some to believe, but there are also Jews for Jesus, and also some Jews that believe in forgiveness...

    Oh, so you read it in Hebrew, I suppose that means something to you...

     
    #48     May 17, 2007
  9. Just a reminder:

    Zionism

    Pronunciation:
    \ˈzī-ə-ˌni-zəm\
    Function:
    noun
    Date:
    1896

    : an international movement originally for the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel

    http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zionism
    I guess they are supposed to make peace with Hamas, Hezbollah and your buddy Ahmadinejad.
     
    #49     May 17, 2007
  10. More of the moral relativism that we've become accustomed to from Z. Remember, when the news hit the wires about the Iranian community which murdered a young teenage girl by hanging her because she was found guilty of 'acts inconsistent with chastity' (flirting with a young man), the Disgusting Troll was the first one to condemn those of us who called the act barbaric. He said we 'couldn't judge another culture'.

    Similarly, we cannot judge those who strap bombs to themselves and purposely murder women and children. We cannot condemn a rabid faction of Muslims who have sworn that they won't rest until every Jew is dead and Israel is wiped off the face of the earth. In fact, we can't condemn anyone for anything in Z's world, because everyone is a special interest group of one, and their rights must be protected. The right to murder young people for flirting? Stoning another young woman to death while others laugh and shoot home video of the event and policemen stand by watching, as a right? Morally acceptable to Z, and must be protected. Condemning these acts? Racism.

    Business as usual in the deeply disheartening world of Troll Logic.

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94694
     
    #50     May 17, 2007