Why creation science is an oxymoron

Discussion in 'Politics' started by kut2k2, Feb 4, 2010.

  1. Errrrrr...this just in: There is no real proof of a big bang, nor is their proof of man evolving from a monkey.

    There are inferences, which don't even fully meet the requirements of a logical proof, not to mention the absence of any physical proofs...

    However, that doesn't stop people from believing in the big bang or humans from monkeys through an unguided random accidental process...people are free in this country to believe in and practice whatever religion they like, as long as it is not illegal in the practice.

    Someone wants to worship at the church of atheism?

    Mazel tov...

     
    #231     Feb 14, 2010
  2. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    There's one of your problems right there. Evolution is not a wholly random process. Mutations are random, yes, but natural selection is anything but random. Survival of the fittest is the opposite of random. Ignorance like yours is the result of letting pseudoscience websites tell you what to think.
     
    #232     Feb 14, 2010
  3. SURPRISE ! You just discovered Intelligent design.
    :D :D :D :D
     
    #233     Feb 14, 2010
  4. What you call mutations could not possibly be planned?

    I would like to see the proof of that...

    ...and no, ignorance of any particular chain of causation is not the same as random forces impinging on living beings to cause change to the DNA sufficient to produce a new species.

    Think about it for a moment.

    We know when it is night because we know it is not day, and vice versa.

    Exactly at what point in time does it transition from night to day, or from day to night? Since in theory time can be split into as many parts as there are points on a line (a continuum) (we have nano seconds, but every nano second could be split, and that nano nano second could be split, etc.) the exact moment of change from equal parts day and equal parts night to night or day is immeasurable in space and time because we don't have the instrumentation to measure the subtlety of change. It is a continuum.

    No, transitions like this are not actually measurable.

    The so called evolution of species is also very similar. So we have a fish, and we have an amphibian...but do we know exactly when the fish became the amphibian?

    Do we see a fossil record of any complex species changing from one species to another?

    Not even close.

    It is speculation, conjecture, and may or may not be true...but there is no fact of science that demonstrates exact speciation process due to a so called unplanned evolution that we have a fossil record of.

    Life is a continuum, not a rigid speciation process, but that does not preclude the real possibility that this process if by design, and not by random chance.

    I know many want to believe that there is no plan to life, no design or designer, and that there is no governing intelligence, and it is there right to believe that is the truth...

    ...however there is no proof of this...none. It is a belief no more valid that belief in God.

    It is more probable to say there is a continuum of life from one species to another, all of which is governed by rules and regulations of nature, and this governing factor preceded the origin of nature and life itself.

    The study of the governing factor, while beyond the scope of human science is what the creation theory speculates upon.



     
    #234     Feb 14, 2010
  5. That was a diareatic post 777, but no evidence or proof of god equals atheist. Simple end of dicussion. You can say the theory of gravity isn't valid but that still doesn't change the facts there is no evidence or proof of god or gods, thus being an atheist is your only answer.

    Will 777 accept this brutal mental smack down by the legendary bigarrow or will his vainity refuse to let him surrender. 777 has met his master his better. 777 now calls bigarrow master, father, teacher... yes 777 has found his God Bigarrow.
     
    #235     Feb 14, 2010
  6. That was a diareatic post 777

    Perhaps you means diuretic. Yes, most atheists piss when they hear the truth.

    but no evidence or proof of god equals atheist.

    I don't recall writing the no evidence or proof of God (yes, capital G) equals atheist.

    Being an atheist is the practicing of atheist religion, just as being a theist is the practicing of theistic religion.

    Lack of evidence or lack of proof to satisfy the atheists has nothing at all to do with the existence of God, it has everything to do with the concept of God the atheists disbelieve in. They believe if God exists, that God would necessarily be measurable via science, and most theist believe in God that is beyond simple human measurements.

    In the same way that the entirety of the universe is not measurable and unknowable via scientific methods, yet is known via methods other than the physical sciences that the entirety of the universe must necessarily exist...

    I would go over the ontological proof of God for you, but either you native language is not English and you suffer from the translation problem, so your understanding of the ontological arguments for God would not make sense to you...

    Or you are too stupid to understand ontological arguments...

    Simple end of dicussion.

    Morons typically say things like "simple end of discussion" and then they spell discussion "dicussion."

    You can say the theory of gravity isn't valid but that still doesn't change the facts there is no evidence or proof of god or gods, thus being an atheist is your only answer.

    Being an atheist is not my answer, it is the condition of these who have rejected belief in the concept and being of God...

    Will 777 accept this brutal mental smack down by the legendary bigarrow or will his vainity refuse to let him surrender. 777 has met his master his better. 777 now calls bigarrow master, father, teacher... yes 777 has found his God Bigarrow.

    I didn't think I would find anyone more idiotic that Longshot...but you have proved me wrong...
     
    #236     Feb 14, 2010
  7. LOL :D , damn you take yourself way too serious dude. I'm yanking your chain and your ringing like a bell. Yes my spelling isn't the best but it is better than it used to be and if the spell check worked on my iPhone like it's supposed to you'd never know I'm not a good speller. But I do have a high IQ, that and $1.50 will get me a cup of coffee. The basic logic is simple man, no evidence of god, then you gotta have faith and beliefs, if there was factual proof of a god then this di"S"cussion wouldn't be happening. Don't know what your problem is, you along with a billion others believe in something mystical, good for you. It still doesn't change the facts dude. Now go change your shorts you're starting to smell up the place. Signed your god Bigarrow :)
     
    #237     Feb 14, 2010
  8. You are yanking my chain?

    LOL!

    You are the one spending waaaay to much time defending your inability to use a spell checker...

     
    #238     Feb 14, 2010
  9. Yep that pretty much sums it up, God could run over your ass and you'd be oblivious to the evidence.

    kinda sad
     
    #239     Feb 14, 2010
  10. Bigarrow scores yanked 777 chain again. 777 stumbles screams why me god why me. Please god give me the strength to fight or run from the bigarrow. 777 stops and smells the stench coming from his pants. 777 forsakes his god, he listened to the wisdom that is bigarrow and 777 now calls himself ATHEIST ! a man of logic. Welcome to the real world 777.
     
    #240     Feb 14, 2010