Why choose options trading

Discussion in 'Options' started by Jfranco_2003, Sep 8, 2019.

  1. destriero

    destriero


    I think he means via VXX.
     
    #31     Sep 9, 2019
  2. Agreed. But don’t you think profits are also higher here then? Though risk is high but if done careful enough with risk management, one can be good.
     
    #32     Sep 11, 2019
  3. Wheezooo

    Wheezooo

    "I think he means via VXX."

    That would make it an incredibly weird question (weird is my polite word).
     
    #33     Sep 11, 2019
  4. Wheezooo

    Wheezooo

    "options are definitely not easier than equities at least for new traders"

    Or experienced ones. Options are infinitely more complicated.
     
    #34     Sep 11, 2019
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  5. zghorner

    zghorner

    yes both returns and gains are much higher (from a % of invested capital stand point). but you have to be great at risk management (which im not) because major swings up and down happen faster with options...ive had several go from basically break even to worthless (90%+ loss) in a matter or hours. You also have to be good at entry points because you cant sit on it forever to come back in your favor...clocks tickin with options.

    Im going to keep working on it, educating myself while making small options trades...but i can tell you if something doesnt click soon i have to walk away and go back to equities. I am not so much giving advice as i am not qualified to do so...just sharing a noobs perspective that is struggling to make the switch from underlying to options.
     
    #35     Sep 11, 2019
  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    Good luck and I hope you can figure thing out as option trading is hard but fascinating.

    Until you can figure out how they are priced and the idiosyncratic characteristics of what you are trading, it is hard to make money. The exchange traded option market is very efficient meaning there is no edge buying or selling in general.

    Some of us got lucky riding this bull market. But it is not skill.
     
    #36     Sep 11, 2019
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  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    Someone here on ET (@drcha ) gave me this advice back in 2014 which completely changed my fortune, i am going to give you the same advice: If you are new to options, try trade longer expiration options, short duration (intra day or a few days) has too much noise and volatility, unless you are very experienced you will get burn.

    Another comment: You mention risk management, since options are leverage instruments, never risk all of your tradable funds. I seldom commit more than 20% of trading capital to trading options. Also, options themselves are limited risk instruments (buy or write-covered, or spreads... unless you use margin or trade naked), selection is key, risk is already bounded.

    Best wishes to you.
     
    #37     Sep 12, 2019
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  8. bln

    bln

    Yes you have to wait for clearing to go trough before you may make the next trade.

    You can work around this by having multiple brokerage accounts and treat them as one virtual account. With four Cash or Reg-T accounts you can make 4x the allowed trades.
     
    #38     Sep 13, 2019
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  9. Exactly. That there, 100%.
     
    #39     Sep 14, 2019
  10. Wheezooo

    Wheezooo

    "struggling to make the switch from underlying to options"

    I'd recommend not to approach options thinking of it as OCO, but as additive.
     
    #40     Sep 15, 2019