Why Can’t We Talk About the Murder Wave?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ipatent, Dec 26, 2021.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Terry and NYPD stop and frisk are not the same

    The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that stop, question, & frisk is constitutional is there is reasonable probable cause.Federal Courts found that too many NYPD stops were done without reasonable probable cause


     
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    #111     Jan 2, 2022
  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    In Floyd v. City of New York, decided on August 12, 2013, US District Court Judge Shira Scheindlin ruled that stop-and-frisk had been used in an unconstitutional manner and directed the police to adopt a written policy to specify where such stops are authorized



    On November 9, 2013, the city asked a federal appeals court to vacate Scheindlin's orders.[34][35] On November 22, 2013, the federal appellate court rejected the city's motion for a stay of the judge's orders.


    On July 30, 2014, Southern District Court Judge Analisa Torres denied the police unions' motions to intervene and granted the proposed modification of the District Court's August 2013 remedial decision.[33][37] A week later, the City of New York filed a motion to withdraw its appeal.[37] On August 13, 2014, the Second Circuit announced the cases would be argued on October 15, 2014.[33][38] On October 31, a three-judge panel on the Second Circuit unanimously ruled against the unions and allowed the city to proceed with its overhaul of the police department.[39]
     
    #112     Jan 2, 2022
  3. ipatent

    ipatent

    So all Judge Scheindlin ordered was that they have a written policy?
     
    #113     Jan 2, 2022
  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    You have a reading comprehension problem
     
    #114     Jan 2, 2022
  5. ipatent

    ipatent

    That's all your post mentioned.
     
    #115     Jan 2, 2022
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    "US District Court Judge Shira Scheindlin ruled that stop-and-frisk had been used in an unconstitutional manner"
     
    #116     Jan 2, 2022
  7. ipatent

    ipatent

    That's a finding, not an order.
     
    #117     Jan 2, 2022
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  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

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    #118     Jan 2, 2022
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    And yet as outlined in the article I posted stop, question & frisk is still being regularly used in 2021 in New York City. Explain to us how -- if this has been ruled "unconstitutional".
     
    #119     Jan 2, 2022
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    As the chart demonstrates stop, question & frisk was scaled back under political pressure in New Ypork City -- but still is regularly used. It is not "unconstitutional".
     
    #120     Jan 2, 2022