LMAO! Did some loser from my ignore list try to claim that the NY Times is conservative? That's pretty embarrasing, even for liberals. Boy, it must boil their butts that Limbaugh makes a million a week. I bet they can't wait to get some fairness doctrine passed to repress free speech, socialist bastards that they are. So how's Air America faring? Still afloat? Funny how the liberal "flagships" keep sinking. Which billionaire is keeping that leaky raft on top of the water? Glad that coin is going into a never ending pit of despair intead of buying advertising for communists.
Ahem, Ahem The NYTimes VS Limbaugh. Crown Jewel of world Journalism Vs Favorite radio show host of forum moderator (Would you like to add "Mike Savage" and "American Gladiator" to the list of your intellectual pursuits ) Typical demographic of content consumer : NY city physicians Vs Nebraska corn growers. Please, it's so easy it's embarrassing. The Democratic party is not entirely made of "Blacks." We use them as leverage it's one man one vote, we need more "men." you get my point.
Conservative talk radio and fox news succeed because they present a very simple view of the world that appeals to low brows. For example: a)US is the greatest country in the world and anyone who criticizes it hates america. b)cut taxes and prosperity will overflow c) "freedom and democracy" are always good even when "implemented" with a bayonet d) Say god bless america a billion times and drape yourself in a trillion american flags A very simple test for "republiCAN'Tness" is to ask someone whether they believe US is an empire. If they answer "no", they believe that US is god's gift to humanity that is hell bent on spreading freedom around the world. If they answer "yes", their knowledge and understanding of history (particularly US history) is clearly more sophisticated and nuanced. There is a reason conservative talk radio and fox news continue to bash "liberals, liberal media and liberal professors". Attacking intellectuals is ALWAYS indicative of brainwashing of the general public. Only cowards are afraid of debate. Trashing college professors who say that US went into Iraq because of OIL (god forbid it is unpatriotic) is but one of the steps to stroke nationalism. Bottom line FOX is trash for the simple reason it does not ever offer a sophisticated debate. US is always right, always the most free, always the most prosperous, etc. etc. I happen to believe that US has a lot to learn from other countries because it is a young country. One of the lessons is NOT TO ENGAGE IN COLONIAL WARS.
New York times is the crown jewel of journalism? All Journalism is F'd up on both sides. I am starting to think through this forum that there is a huge majority of liberals that never really say what they want.
I will never forget how that bitch Maureen Dowd was so cute about cheerleading for the Iraq war saying how Saddam stood no chance and then turned into a fierce bush criticizer. It is so chique now to be anti bush and anti war people like Bill Maher (who used to be 100% pro bush during afghanistan war time) made a career out of it. It is profitable nowadays to criticize george w. Bob Woodward used to be pro W before State of Denial Scott McLellan used to be "one of the guys" Richard Clarke turned into a 1 man crew with Against all enemies (one of the earliest commercial bush criticizers) Etc. etc. Having said all that, I rather have people be right for the wrong reasons than wrong for any reason. I don't want to see anything positive about "W" so if there is a never ending stream of bush criticizing delivered for commercial (instead of ideological) reasons I will have to live with it.
1/ You need a certain type of unique stupidity to be able to patiently sit and listen to some moron mouthing off nonsense. 2/ Liberals and independents tend to be well informed. Since they can actually read and comprehend what they are reading. They don't need someone tell them what to think. 3/ Liberals and independents are out and about, actually working and paying taxes. Unlike "joe the plumber" con-types who never pay taxes and only work when their beer money runs out. Since Joe is unemployed much of the time, he has ample time to listen to the talk-nonsense. Cons, in general, are drop out types. They NEED talk radio to memorize the sound bite of the day. And that explains the sheer stupidity of the cons here on ET. case in point, the recurrent " Is Obamas birth certificate real?" theme on ET. There are many such examples. Once the "theme" has been vetted by Limbaugh, it's on here the next day.
Do you understand the concept of a news dept and an editorial dept ? One is for news, the other is for opinions. Yes, despite their failings, some very public (Jason Blair, Judith Miller); The NY times remain the crown jewel of US journalism. I'm not a liberal, I'm a conservative and recently a DEMOCRAT. The GOP failed every single tenet of modern conservatism (small government, balanced budget, foreign policy grounded in reality.) I understand the majority here supports the GOP because they're white insecure and scared, prob poor too. I've pretty much concluded that Joe the plumber (40k income, no college degree) is the prevailing "demographic" here . I've yet to read one intelligent post where someone argues for conservatism ass the main motive driving their vote for republicans -- Insecure Whites wanting to "congregate" together safely in the GOP (identity politics, as old as America) -- Fear / Hate of Blacks (Also warranted in part) BUT THAT's pretty much it. These are the prevailing reasons. Although I consider myself both a social and economic conservative. I'm not white and have not this crazy irrational fear of blacks......so I watch, sadly, white men reveal their true insecure selves in an astounding explosion of anger and bigotry all wrapped up in ignorance and desperate shouts of "Lib Dems" / "Wealth transfer" at any attempt of reasoning. White men are obsessed with black men, whereas their true competitors for word leadership are somewhere else. Truly Sad.
Maureen / Tom Friedman/ Judith Miller , all of them were for the Irak war. and ALL write for the editorial page of the NY times.
I know that, I remember how Friedman was so excited about Iraq "changing the dynamic" in the Middle East and how the road to Jerusalem runs through Baghdad or some other crap like that.
Don't you people have jobs? the only people that listen that stuff are the angry unemployable and OLD people. And I mean very old people.