Why can't I wake up earlier to trade?

catchawave2 · Sep 17, 2012

Quote from oraclewizard77:

I live in the West Coast, and always wake up late. The one day this week when it was loud outside, I woke up early, and had a perfect trade. After Wed, I also did not feel like trading, since I had no losses and was scared of giving my profit back. [/QUOTE

As you can see I don't take the time to post much. However, I felt
compelled to comment and share my experience because struggling
to wake up in the morning is the story of my life. It's a miracle that
I made it through high school.

For me difficulty waking up in the morning is not a psychological
issue. Even when I raced motorcycles, which I loved, I had trouble
waking up in the morning. I also , used to sleep between races.
I would have someone wake me up 5 minutes before the race
while my mechanic already had my motorcycle at the starting line.
Once the gate dropped I had plenty of energy. It's like I had two
speeds...sleeping and Wide F...ing Open.

Years later I almost fainted in the bond pit. This lead to my doctor
ordering a six hour glucose tolerance (torture) test. My blood sugar
dropped to 45 indicating that I had hypoglycemia. A hypoglycemic
episode can cause extreme fatigue. For some hypoglycemics the
fatigue can be severe in the morning because they haven't
eaten anything for more than several hours.

Many years after that episode I finally found a doctor that correctly
diagnosed the heart palpitations I would get occasionally. An echo
cardiogram showed that I have mitral valve prolapse.
I have had this since I was a young child, but mvp doesn't show
up on a routine ekg. BTW mitral valve prolapse can cause fatigue.

About 10 years ago I complained to a doctor about feeling tired.
He asked me if I feel tired when I'm on vacation. He must have
thought it was all in my head. So, I said yes ,I fell asleep on a park
bench, resting my head on my girlfriends shoulder at two o clock
in the afternoon. We were sitting in front of Niagra Falls. He recommended a sleep clinic, but I found this odd that he came to
that conclusion so fast without knowing my history. When I say odd
I mean I think he was getting a kick back from the clinic. I said I
don't need a sleep clinic. I need a wake up clinic. To his credit
he said if anything disturbs you during the night, for example,
leg pain it disrupts your REM sleep. If you don't get enough
REM sleep your going to feel tired and have trouble waking up.

The advice from one doctor ( a psychiatrist) that made the most
sense for most people was , don't eat before you go to bed.
I'm not making this next thing up. He said a study was done that
showed when you eat before bed your body produces enough
poison to kill a rat. He said your backing the truck up to the doc
and there's know one there to unload the truck.

If I'm serious about getting up at a certain time I put my alarm
far away from the bed so I have to get out of bed to shut it off.
If you try this don't jump out of bed from a dead sleep. I heard this
can spike your blood pressure. It's nice to wake up with a zen
alarm clock from Now and Zen Inc. but it made a tic toc noise that
I didn't like when I was trying to fall asleep.

I've somewhat controlled most of my issues with a low carb diet,
weightlifting ,cardio, drinking lots of water, and going to bed at
a certain time even if I'm not tired. Morning or daytime tiredness
can be caused by so many things from simple, not enough sleep
to more complex adrenal fatigue. If I don't work at feeling good
I will feel like crap.

Here is some food for thought. My brother has never used an alarm
clock in his entire life, and he wakes up earlier than he needs to
all the time. And he has had plenty of reasons to be depressed
and want to avoid facing the day.

Apparently people are just wired differently.
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oraclewizard77 · Sep 19, 2012

Congrats on your trade you did today. Obviously, if I was sure in my setups and that I would make money every day, I would wake up and trade with more confidence.

I went to sleep around 4:30 am last night since I was not tired and still could not fall asleep. I did manage to wake up around the time I felt I may still get in a winning setup. My thought was at least look at the market and see if their are some good trades and then I could always take a nap, so I was able to trade today. I was not able to trade yesterday.

Quote from ammo:

not lazy,scared,no confidence in the set ups,prioritize em,best, mediocre ,rare ..start trading the best with stops,ALL of them on sim,keep a tally,stay in with conviction,add wins and losses and see for yourself in black and white that it works,will increase your confidence
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TheMan · Sep 19, 2012

Quote from catchawave2:

Morning or daytime tiredness
can be caused by so many things from simple, not enough sleep
to more complex adrenal fatigue. If I don't work at feeling good
I will feel like crap.
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Do you have recent labs pulled? Thyroid, adrenal hormones etc etc etc

Have you had an MRI to check on hypopituitarism?

Have you had an MRI to check for adrenal tumors?

Have you done a cortisol saliva test?

Go to this site and post stuff if you have the blood-work, someone on there may be able to help you.

http://forum.jackkruse.com/forum.php

Llxa · Oct 13, 2012

Move to the East Coast at least !!!!

West coast, no offence, is one of the worst timezone to trade in any market. There is a reason WHY the west coast is an IT hub and not a financial centre.

maxpi · Oct 13, 2012

could be adrenal exhaustion...

dealmaker · Oct 14, 2012

Quote from oraclewizard77:

I live in the West Coast, and always wake up late. The one day this week when it was loud outside, I woke up early, and had a perfect trade. After Wed, I also did not feel like trading, since I had no losses and was scared of giving my profit back.
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Its good to have some fear, it shows respect for the craft but you got to keep in mind that trading for living is a job and if you are not up trading you are not earning a living or if you are a new trader you are not improving. if you are fearful of losing trade smaller size.

dealmaker · Oct 14, 2012

Quote from Llxa:

Move to the East Coast at least !!!!

West coast, no offence, is one of the worst timezone to trade in any market. There is a reason WHY the west coast is an IT hub and not a financial centre.
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Are you kidding market closes at 1:00pm, I still have most of the day to do the things that makes life worthwhile...