Forget about Computer Science. Your job is a mouse click away from India, Brazil or Latvian. These jobs will go to any country with low cost of living and cheap labor. Even accounting is now being off-shored to India and other countries. Nursing, they will import enough Filipina nurses until there is a surplus. Computer Science grads were in demand some years ago. Not any more. Same will happen to nurses. Jobs will go overseas or go to robots. Forget about a job, you need to figure a way to make money w/o begging for a job. America does not give a damn about the white/pink collar workers w/o jobs.
Education is overrated. The answer is to become Amish. They survive and thrive with only an 8th grade education, and they refuse to accept social security benefits. Plus, they get to wear really cool hats. Alternatively, become a Hutterite. They get by with only a high school education.
I thought of something else that I might put in this thread...I like this thread as its educational and so I thought I might put some more material in it for all. Whenever you present yourself to a "decision maker" that person is going to ask themselves the following questions: 1. Do I want this person sitting and working closely with me in the same room 8 hours a day? Do I want this person sitting and working closely with my staff 8 hours a day? Do I want them working with my clients 8 hours a day? 2. Will this person contribute positively to my performance thereby increasing my salary/bonus and prevent myself from getting fired? Will this person cause me any troubles or problems? The two most important aspects of hiring is finding a team player and someone who is going to contribute to the performance (versus hurting the performance). Every day there are people who walk into an office somewhere and simply sit at the desks talking and joking, but not really contributing to the performance. There are also those who contribute to the performance, but do not get along well with others in and out of the workplace. When presenting yourself, you should act like the person at the other side of the table is your friend. When entering the room, shake hands, look the guy in the eye and smile. Keep the tone positive. Look for a reason to compliment the interviewer and the workplace. For example, the guy has a picture of his kid graduating from college on his desk. Ask about the picture and where he went to school. "Wow! NYU is a nice school." The first 60 seconds of meeting you should say something positive about the place and find a way to compliment the interviewer in an indirect manner. After the interview is over, do not just walk out, but find a way to engage the interviewer in an informal casual conversation. You are demonstrating that you are a personable person who will lift up other people's spirits and raise the morale. Next, create an impression that, although you are this charasmatic positive minded individual, you also have a good work ethic and will find a way to contribute everyday. Arrive 5-10 minutes early to the interview. Dont arrive any earlier and dont arrive on-time or a few minutes late. Always arrive slightly early so the interviewer can simply step out into the hall and be ready for you. As long as you are within 1000 feet of the interview building, all personal activity such as cell phone usage should cease. You should act as if someone is actively watching you and they will judge you based on those observations. If you drive an older beat up car, then that should be parked as far away from the building as you can get away with and out of the line of site of any windows. Walk into, through and out of the building with a quick confident step and a positive energy. Before the interview, do some light running, pushups and situps so you can be sure that you are alert. Experienced interviewers will detect fatigue or a lack of energy. During the interview, try to elaborate that your main focus is on the team and exceeding the goals. Even if you did not play a competitive sport in college or high school, just say you did and that you enjoy winning versus just achieving a certain mark. For example, playing baseball in college made you appreciate the aspect of competition and winning was a feeling that you enjoy. If you are caught up with your own work and see others struggling, then the answer is that you help them out in order to further the goals of the team. "One team one dream" Whatever is said or done during the interview, take note and remember. If you say or do something during the interview, then that will be expected while you are employed with the organization. If you say you are a team player, then you better be a team player. I remember hiring quite a few people who did and said one thing during the interview and then did something completely different when they started working. In a way, I felt as if they lied to me and said what they had to say to get the job. Then, everytime I dealt with that person again, it really clouded my thoughts. They said that they help other employees out during the interview when they completed their work, but the reality is they sat on the computer surfing the internet and watched their co-workers struggle. Finally, loyalty and respect is a key trait of desirable employees. If you are hired, then will you run to "HR" or the upper management when you disagree with how things are being run? Do you talk about other employees or the boss behind their backs? Are you going to walk in each day scowling at other people without the benefit of a hello or good morning? A good way to look at things is to imagine you are the "decision maker" who hires people at a certain workplace. You have been burned before with other employees and so are suspect of everyone who walks through the door for the interview. If you were this person, what would you look for as desirable and undesirable traits? If you are really looking for a good steady job where there never seems to be lay-offs, then go into nursing. You can get a degree at a 2-3 year community college and start making 70k a year. I have never known of a nurse to go through a recession or out of work. They always get 5-6 weeks of vacation and incredible benefits. Some nurses make six figures. Although the profession is a lot of work, you will never find yourself out of a job or worrying about the economy and whats in store for you.
Nice try but you're not fooling anyone. Subsidized education is one of Canada's many social benefits and it's not surprising that you'd move to "safe, tolerant, polite Canada with its generous social benefits for virtually anyone who lands on our shores" after having failed as you did in the United States. You yourself said you've been in jail several times, to include once for felony obstruction of justice, so I'd call that failure. Your extreme bitterness also implies sour grapes and failure. Do you really think you can convince anyone that all the bitter garbage you've spewed is not bitter by pretending it's not? LMAO!!! And you continue down the path of failure by advising people on ET to commit felony tax evasion and with your lying. .20 per thousand, eh? I suppose that next you'll claim you're a profitable trader
Nursing apparently isn't that great career anymore as hospitals are trying to hire experienced philipino nurses instead of recent grads.. the good old H1B scam.
Nice try. In fact, 5 of the top 10 projected fast growing in fields, including things like Security and Network Management The only problem now, is the short term economy. Everyone is suffering. It is amazing how people have nothing more than an opinion and think it matters I have good access to recent comp sci grads, and you are way off course.
WRONG. As I said in above post to the other about Comp Sci, I happen to know people in the field, including new grads. And you are about the only one who is whining about "EE grad, no job since 2002." I have an MSCS and took coursework in EE. You come across as someone who took a correspondence course from Penn Foster.
Why would anyone hire a CompSci grad when there are plenty of Computer Engineering majors in need of a job? Computer Engineering > Computer Science
If "short term" means the past 10 years, ie: pretty much the entire time after the dot-com bust...sure. So do I. They're all unemployed, or minimally employed. CS grad hiring in the past number of years has been virtually non-existent, and most certainly, not sufficient to provide for up-take of all of the US grads, nevermind the foreigners being brought in.
CompE tends to be concentrated moreso on hardware and digital logic, and less so, on all the niceties of programming in the latest OOP, or on the latest HMI/platform. CS employers also want their employees to be dirt cheap. CompE's, at least, in theory, have other engineering skills which would drag their compensation higher (ie: a CompE likely could work as a traditional EE), which doesn't make them too attractive to the slave-drivers who just want rooms full of cheap programmers.