Why can't I get a job? Recent Grad, 3.7 GPA, Good Exp, Year and a half of searching..

Discussion in 'Economics' started by INeedAJob, Sep 8, 2009.


  1. ive never been asked my gpa-ive had jobs at 3 major financial institutions...this guy knows what hes talking about listen
     
    #131     Sep 11, 2009
  2. Exactly, thats what I'm doing.

    Physical Therapy is what I am enrolled in. I have a 2 year degree in Computer science, 20 credits shy of bachelors in Telecom. I sent out hundreds of resumes for telecom jobs when in school and all I got was 8/hr job offers to build computers.

    I have tried to dabble in the stocks with little success. I work a part time job but make good money for what I do. This has allowed me to get into the medical field.

    Medical jobs will always be there. I dont like blood, so no to nursing. Med school is way too long. Dietician is something I considered but chose PT instead (maybe regret that!). Most males dont give a shit about people and therefore, dont want to work in the medical field where you help people for a living. I'm one the rare ones who do like to help people.

    I worked 10 years in management and received nothing except a paycheck for all them years. Thats when I decided to say screw that and got into school working towards a degree in the medical field.

    I wish the OP best of luck in his search. You couldnt pay me enough to get out of the medical field with the economy the way it is and all the unemployment out there. Even my small town has new medical job ads on a daily basis.
     
    #132     Sep 11, 2009
  3. IneedAJob,

    Quote: “As far as all the replies about my password quip, it was really just a way of sharing how many sites I am truly registered on. I can usually remember the passwords once I know what their particular construction rules are.

    Sir, you are still missing the point. You don’t get an A for effort in the real world of adult life. At the end of the day, people care about the results, not how much work you put in to get where you are today. If it takes you twice as long to do a task than someone else, then you are wasting your employer’s time and money. Saying “I can usually remember the passwords once I think about it” again is a red flag IMHO. Again, a potential employer doesn’t want to hear USUALLY. We don’t care whether you remember your passwords or how. If you need them, you better have them. If you are about to go into a meeting with an important client after 3 or 4 previous meetings and think “usually” is good enough to be prepared for this one, I hope you see how an employer may disagree with your thought process.

    Quote:
    “For the grammatical errors, I am not the greatest speller. I never excelled in English class. I have the other kind of brain, the mathematical and technical kind. Spell check is my best friend, and for a forum post I just spell check and throw it up, no formal review. My resume has been looked over by many people and all grammatical changes were made very early in the process.”

    Regarding this paragraph, you are essentially saying you are not the greatest speller or great at English and that is ok and not important enough to you (and many others by the way) to work on and improve if necessary. Saying you have never been great in either area, as your excuse for it won’t win you favor with any hiring managers. That is unacceptable to any employer and should be unacceptable to you. I hope you can see this. An employer doesn't want someone representing his or her company with that attitude. Imagine you own a company and have someone with this attitude putting out a press release or sending documentation to an important client with this attitude. Would you want them in your company? I hope you see the point of view of someone who may be hiring you. Don’t put all the effort into sending out resumes only to shoot yourself in the foot by thinking that just because spelling and English don’t come easily to you, that they are good enough now.


    Don’t think I am picking on you unnecessarily as I am not. The real world is much harder on you than this thread has been as you are learning from your job search. Truth be told, thinking that sub par interpersonal skills (and no desire to work on them) won’t hurt your job search is the same as the new trader who starts trading without a plan and a real edge. The battle is over before it began. Try to look at things from the hiring manager’s viewpoint and I think you will see what is holding you back.

    Again, best of luck.

    BM
     
    #133     Sep 11, 2009
  4. Are you being realistic in your job search?

    How are your personal skills?

    As a hiring manager I can tell you your education means very little unless you know math or engineering. Nearly everything else can be learned.

    I have no doubt the head of Citi, Lehman, Merrill etc. all had mba's and high gpas and wow, they really did well.

    Sorry to break it to you but you are in a pretty bad spot. Because of the timing you will earn less for the forseeable future than you would have 2 years ago.

    Do you have an MBA? If not go back to school. If you have an MBA go get a degree in computer science.

    Your 3.72 gpa is competing against some very overqualified people just looking for a job.
     
    #134     Sep 11, 2009
  5. +1

    entitlement instinct is strong in this one, in the midst of a horrible job market.
     
    #135     Sep 12, 2009
  6. The technical jobs are in India or China.
    Get into a plane.
     
    #136     Sep 12, 2009
  7. A 3.72 GPA in econ means nothing unless you went to a top school. Undergrad econ is a joke at most schools. How much math do you know? For an econ degree to be valuable beyond a run of the mill liberal arts BA, you need to have taken the following:

    -multivariable calculus
    -ordinary differential equations
    -linear algebra
    -econometrics
    -game theory
    -probability theory
    -real analysis

    I doubt you have these courses. So your econ BA means little. You have a biz/liberal arts degree which means you need to network and learn how to talk to people.
     
    #137     Sep 12, 2009
  8. I know this is of little help to you now, but is more for the 18-19 and under crowd. If you want a job that pays well, go to school and study engineering. Jobs pay well, they are going to be in demand for years to come, and banks/hedge funds love them.

    Someone just left my group and we're hiring but would be weird to grab someone from a forum.
     
    #138     Sep 13, 2009
  9. Typical repsonse I’d hear from a Republican/Fox News junkie nowadays. Very little in the way of solutions, just critisizm to those who are working hard and can’t seem to get ahead. Then you sit back and wonder why Democrats win elections. 30 years ago this college graduate would have a great management job somewhere, now he’s unemployed. The people complaining about others “entitlement” attitudes are the same ones that had a much easier time starting off to begin with.

    A great reality tv show would be to take 10 20-30 year olds and 10 45+ people and strip them all of their degrees, job history, experience, money, assets, and everything else. Put them all on the same playing field and after 5 years I think you’ll be surprised to see the results.
     
    #139     Sep 13, 2009
  10. Great point. Why listen to people who have been successful and have supported themselves longer than you've been on earth when they can listen to someone like you, who has not been successful and still lives with his parents?
     
    #140     Sep 13, 2009