Why are quants afraid of Mark Jurik?

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by kut2k2, Oct 29, 2010.

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  1. bluelou

    bluelou

    Don't get all sensitive on me. I didn't say anything bad about your AMA. It might be the best AMA on ET. But, c'mon a small in-sample backtest isn't indicative of anything. I'm doing my best to take you seriously.

    No, I didn't say I use wavelets for real-time filtering. I said I've tried them. I couldn't find a strategy where denoising worked for me.. That doesn't mean it doesn't work for someone else.
     
    #71     Nov 27, 2010
  2. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    This is ridiculous. You asked for test results and I gave you test results, using a test that was set up by an impartial third party (goodgoing) and specifically challenged to me by someone who is clearly antagonistic to me (imbecilebill). So you can hardly claim bias on my part as to the sample selection. And my indicator flew with flying colors, but suddenly it's "not indicative of anything." Riiiiiiiight.
    You claimed real-time wavelets have been used for at least the past 8 years. If you haven't used them for real-time filtering, why bring them up at all? Denoising the past is a waste of time for a trader. No wonder you gave up on wavelet denoising. The question remains, why didn't you try the alleged real-time version? That would have been the appropriate thing to do. Do you not understand it? Did you find out it wasn't what it was touted to be?
     
    #72     Nov 27, 2010
  3. bluelou

    bluelou

    Congrats. I'm glad you passed your test.
     
    #73     Nov 27, 2010
  4. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    Thanks but it wasn't my test, it was somebody else's test. I already knew my AMA was better than any publicly disclosed MA. That's partly what I was trying to get across in this thread: limiting your TA to the public domain stuff is a mistake; there's better stuff out there, but you have to dig for it (or pay Mark Jurik for it :D ).
     
    #74     Nov 27, 2010
  5. JMA has already been revealed by an Ukranian developer and it has even been improved by other coders:

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    and this is the jurik volty stop:

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    #75     Nov 29, 2010
  6. bluelou

    bluelou

    O.Y.,
    What do the different colored lines represent? Since you've gone this far can you post the transformed JMA data along side the AUDUSD price info?
     
    #76     Nov 29, 2010
  7. please post revised Jurik code.
     
    #77     Nov 29, 2010
  8. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    OK, put it to the backtest challenge that was issued to me earlier in this thread. Your results will be interesting to see.
     
    #78     Nov 29, 2010
  9. bluelou

    bluelou

    No, don't run a backtest. That doesn't make any sense. You want the RMSE of the various filters against a benchmark instrument.
     
    #79     Nov 29, 2010
  10. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    The backtest makes perfect sense. It shows how well the proposed filter does against a benchmark filter (the simple moving average). How would a RMSE be better?
     
    #80     Nov 30, 2010
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