Why are Hussein Obama and Kamala Harris On My Youtube feed begging for money

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Aug 24, 2024.

  1. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    what are you talking about? I don’t see the connection but maybe you are just triggered.
     
    #61     Aug 28, 2024
  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    joe decided not to run. No one could force him to quit (per party rules).

    technically we vote for delegates. Those delegates vote for the candidate. Each party has different rules on how those delegates are treated. In the Democratic Party and in the Republican Party and in the actual presidential election, those delegates can vote for whom ever they want but they very very rarely vote against the candidate who selected them.

    I’m sure you get this and aren’t insinuating that Kamala wasn’t the nominee illegally. I think it’s pretty obvious the liberals of the country and most of the moderates and some republicans are excited that she’s running. Perhaps if she did run in the primaries she would have beaten Biden.

    using your logic, trump was never really a president of the people because he got fewer votes than Hillary in 2016. Just some of the votes for him counted more.
     
    #62     Aug 28, 2024
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  3. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Well yeah ... "he decided not to run"... I mean you said it yourself, that's the only way to change the ticket. But are you forgetting the week before when he BOLDLY stated "I am in it to the end?":rolleyes:

    So lets not get bogged down on the semantics of "pushed out the door" --- even though that is basically what happened. You chose the phraseology of your choice. It doesn't change what happened. If the main-stream media, the party powers, and dozens of others not said Joe you gotta go... safe bet he'd still "be in it to the end." The man could only stand so much arm twisting.

    Again... it is what it is.
     
    #63     Aug 28, 2024
  4. spy

    spy

    Maybe. Or maybe you can't draw intelligent and wise conclusions. It's a double edged sword :) Good luck w/ the big government, cradle to grave mandates... let me know how life in the gulag turns out :thumbsup:
     
    #64     Aug 28, 2024
  5. If you want to get technical she was not ushered in...when he decided to not seek the office of the president in the next election, the VP stepped in.

    What I find funny is that it is the GOP whining like bitches about her being the candidate but no one is really complaining on the DEM side. GOP is bitching that Dem party took away the people's vote who selected Biden...yet the Dems are all rallying around Harris...

    SO it begs the question....why are you so butthurt to stand up for the Dems who have no issue with this whatsoever? what is your real reason for being upset that Harris stepped in since the Dems are screaming to you and others like you, "we dont need you to argue on our behalf for some bullshit...we are fine"
     
    #65     Aug 28, 2024
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  6. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    No, that's not even an apples to apples. That is the way the system is set up. But enough EC votes pushed Trump into the win.

    And lets be real here... people don't "vote for delegates" even though that is in fact what they are doing. They vote for their candidate. And I remain resolute in my opinion (note opinion)... that had it been an open primary, Kamala would never have won. The voters would have (assigned the delegates) to someone else. But again, that's just my thoughts. Maybe Kamala would have landslided other more competent potential candidates. We'll never know. But doubtful for sure.
     
    #66     Aug 28, 2024
  7. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Who's "butthurt?" I could care less who they pick. My point is (again imo) she would have lost in an open primary. The party was stuck with her, there's no way they could kick her to the curb. The optics would have been terrible, so they had no choice BUT to rally behind her, because they were stuck. I'm sure if she were just some old white guy of the same competence level, he'd have been replaced in a blink. But this is the party of identity politics, and no way could they kick a black woman who was VP out. It would have been the greatest hypocritical move of all time. This was covered here long in advance by Tree etc. Do you think they WOULDN'T rally behind her lol?

    Notice how long it took Barack and Michelle to get on board. They waited till the bitter end, probably because Michelle had to think deeply about running. Had she thrown her hat in the ring, well... we'll never know.
     
    #67     Aug 28, 2024
  8. wildchild

    wildchild

    Did you vote for Kamala in the primary?
     
    #68     Aug 28, 2024
  9. spy

    spy

    Believe it or not, I agree with you. Their process is, by definition, a "setup"... for better or worse, that's exactly what a process is... a "setup" of some kind.

    She's better than Biden but that's not saying much. The Dems were in a bind. As much as they wanted to they couldn't pass over her; it would have insulted too many voters. The process isn't perfectly transparent and partially intended to obfuscate this from the "low info" voter. Some people will believe anything and vote Red/Blue no matter what.

    But, she's still a weak candidate IMHO and I suspect the "sugar high" will disappear. I continue to think Trump takes PA and the election. The margin is much smaller than it would have been against Biden but competition is a good thing.

    How can they overcome their own record in such a short period of time?



    I could be wrong, certainly wouldn't be the first time. But we'll see how things turn out.
     
    #69     Aug 28, 2024
  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    It is the same fruit in that the vote is not a direct vote whatever the intent is because 99% of the time.

    You might be right that Kamala wouldn't have won primaries but it's an irrelevant clearly virtually every democrat is thrilled that she is the nominee.
     
    #70     Aug 28, 2024