trendlover, one more comment, your biologist says something I find to be quite odd I am a dog guy, people can breed intelligence in just a few generations. Every dog person knows border collies are the smartest breed, it didn't take long to get them there. There are also large differences in other breeds, so to say that intelligence is something that is difficult to evolve... I don't know about that. Wolves are much smarter than ordinary dogs, even though they can breed with each other. It didn't take much to dumb them down apparently. It shows what happens when selective pressures dissappear... what does that say about us in the welfare state? Our DNA is supposedly 96% chimpanzee (another argument against the we 'are mostly the same')....look out below.
Oh no , (rcg must be hearing dog air raid sirens about now )you didn't just use the "porch monkey" attack did you ?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For example Mav88, look what phoenix talk about. Is this determinism he talk about?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You know what I see? I see many people of the politics thread always talking about American welfare system keep minoritys poor. The Republicnas say the democratic welfare keep them on the reservation because they tell minoritys you can not be successful with no help from welfare. But then some people like YOU want to say is some kind of genes that make some people never able to succeed. So I do not like politics, but really which of the party in USA, republican or Democrat really think some people are inferior? If I have to bet today, I will bet Republican.
(based on your posting history) If I carefully addressed your concerns you would still fail to understand, so I guess I'm passing the buck.