You guys are really dense, extremely challenged people who have your conclusion drawn before you finish reading my first sentence. Was never beating my chest about anything in the first place, secondly everything you say here is useless platitude and hyperbole, utterly devoid of anything but the standard braindead sermon given by your leadership. To never ask that your fellow man contribute his part, to never hold anyone to standard, and to accept the immorality of a permanent welfare class, is all part of your bankrupt culture called liberalism. The fact that you cannot muster the fortitude to see the world as it really is instead of what you wish it to be says a lot about your own character.
you have no idea what I say away from this forum do you? how could you? like other communists, you are a self-assured buffoon
The tragedy is that you really think YOU are morally superior, it drips all over your self-righteous posts moral superiority is a hallmark of religion
Teaching moment here. This is why the discussion always gets stopped and we will never have real progress. I never mentioned Aryan master race ever, period. Notice how he makes it up for effect. Blacks talk about race nonstop, notice the blind eye. Asians and blacks have taught their own superiority (afrocentrism), notice the blind eye. Progess is only defined by the poster. lesson: The problem is that when religion takes hold of the brainstem then you can no longer reason with it.
Well, ok except for the fact that you are off in a totally incorrect tangent. Never have I brought in Religion, wrong guy, sorry. I do respect those who are serious church goers, although I am not one of them. I only brought up the Aryan comment as a way to show an example of how the discussion relates to those who think one race is superior to another. IQ or athletics. Anyone who spends time trying to upgrade themselves based on their ethnicity is, well, pretty sad. Why not simply accept yourself for who you are, for your own accomplishments? Not too cool to try to make yourself look better by putting others down, especially entire races of human beings. I would like to think that many on here actually read each other's comments without having to chastise them for whatever pigeon hole they may be placed, regardless of how misguided. Teaching moments are welcome, and they come and go, and yes, we may disagree on what is being taught. Not a big deal there. So, teaching moment: don't make assumptions when they are not valid. No religious element to my posts, at least on this thread. And, 180 degrees to the opposite this time.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_04-background-01-06.htm "I'm going to start with the idea that many people hold, that there is some special athletic prowess held by people of African descent in America. Most people sort of believe that African Americans are genetically predisposed to being faster runners or better basketball players or for being better cornerbacks in the National Football League. And there's also now some scientific studies which are attempting to look at population-based differences in genes that have to do with various aspects of physiological performance related to athletic ability. Now, at some level, when we look at human physical variation, there are some differences between human populations that could possibly relate to athletic performance. For example, if we were to look at people from northern climates, who were indigenous residents of northern climates, they tend to be short and stout instead of long or tall and lean. And there are good physical reasons for that. If you evolved in northern climates, like the Aleut or the Eskimo populations did, heat retention is facilitated by being short and stout. If you evolved in the tropics, where the environment is very hot, then heat loss is facilitated by being long and lean. So you're going to see differences in body proportions on that kind of scale. Now, if you were to ask yourself, "Is it likely that an Alaskan Eskimo is going to become a center in the NBA?", well, probably not, because height has something to do with your performance at that position in the NBA. So, we can see that in the gross scale it's likely that physical differences may have something to do with various forms of athletic performance. But when we talk about subtle things like, for example, whether a given population is going to be fastest in sprinting, then it's not so simple. The fact is that most of the world record holders in the 100-meter dash are of Western African descent, but they also tend to be African-Americans who have mixed with Europeans and American Indians. So it's not easy for us to determine whether it's being African that might have something to do with them being so fast, or whether it's the fact that they have European and American Indian ancestry that might have helped them be so fast. And all of those genetic factors have to be tempered in terms of the environment in which individuals train. For example, if you look at those sprinters of Western African ancestry, they all got their records because they trained in the United States, Canada, Great Britain, or even in the Caribbean. If you look at the Western African countries where those sprinters' ancestors supposedly came from, none of those countries have ever produced any world record holders in the sprint events. So if it was something uniquely about being African that makes you a fast sprinter, then you'd expect that Western African countries would be holding all these records too, but in fact they don't. It has something to do with genetic predisposition, it has something to do with environment, it has something to do with training regimes, and particularly at the level of world-class athletic performance. One of the factors that shows how the situation of populations in different geographical regions influences predisposition for sport is altitude. The Kenyan success in long-distance running may have something to do with the fact that the Kalenjin Kenyans come from a high-altitude region in Kenya. But, Kenyans from low altitudes don't do well in long-distance running, so it's not something special about being a Kenyan, it's something special about living at those high altitudes. Now, in the last Boston Marathon, which (laughter) someone predicted would be won by a Kalenjin Kenyan, it was in fact won by a South Korean. Now, Korea is also a mountainous country, and so it's entirely possible that this individual at least trained at high altitude. Second place was won by an Ecuadorian, which also is a mountainous country, and they also probably trained at a high altitude. So we have both short-term physiological adaptation that occurs from training in high altitude, and also long-term genetic adaptations for living at high altitude that might come from populations who live in those regions. And again, none of these things are consistent with our 19th century notions of race, because within the same country low-altitude Kenyans don't do well at long-distance running whereas high-altitude Kenyans do. So we can't come to any fast, hard rule about how genetic ancestry is going to influence the ability of an individual to perform an athletic event. I think that the simplest thing is to look at the individual's history, how hard they trained, where they got their training, what kinds of resources were put into getting them to be able to participate in world-class athletics, that it's a combination of all these things and that we'll never have a simple genetic answer that says, "Because you came from this region of the world, you're going to dominate in swimming or long-distance running." I don't think we're ever going to have that."
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Wow , that sure was full of detritus. Tell me what is it that has you so afraid of the facts that there ARE significant differences in IQ distributions among the races? Why does that scare you so much? That you go on a pogrom of name calling , insinuations, red herring distractions. btw: You are NOT helping your cause 1 iota, alternately playing the role of court jester and ostrich to the facts of the matter.