Who's stupid enough to be shorting these levels?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by athlonmank8, Feb 23, 2009.

State your business

  1. Short, we're toast

    118 vote(s)
    61.8%
  2. Long, USA isn't going anywhere

    35 vote(s)
    18.3%
  3. Short NOW converted to long

    29 vote(s)
    15.2%
  4. Long NOW converted to short

    9 vote(s)
    4.7%
  1. lescor

    lescor

    Please explain...
     
    #11     Feb 23, 2009
  2. Been in cash now for a while.

    God help me, but averaging down into the DIA's at these levels slowly. Its painful to do so, too, but I have to. Just can't accept the conventional view of total armageddon. I Could see myself buying down at 6500 too. If its the end of the world, I don't think much is going to matter any more, so might as well dip my toes back in the water. I mean - do you really think its going straight back down to 2500? (might get there but there at least should be some sort of bounce along the way)

    Full disclosure: long DIA

    What a world we live in.
     
    #12     Feb 23, 2009
  3. dsq

    dsq

    the only people dumb enough to short this market are less dumb than you-and much more profitable than you.
    You havent been trading for shit amount of time to be telling people youve been trading 2x as long as they.

    ask riskfreetrading how it feels to sell puts today and brag about it nd then have it implode in his face...he got humiliated and annihalated today...
     
    #13     Feb 23, 2009
  4. I will. The loosest definition of the term would be when the market is more than 50% below it's lowest point and it's highest point. I personally would consider a "full-blown" bear market to be new all-time lows.
     
    #14     Feb 23, 2009
  5. dsq

    dsq

    oh you make up your own rules and definitions of market indicators in your mind and therefore it is fact?

    this place is littered with riskfreetrader,stockturd3,athlon8 idiots who dont know jack but spout off huge.
     
    #15     Feb 23, 2009
  6. Redneck

    Redneck

    Sir,


    As long as the S&P is headed down - who am I to argue

    Call me stupid - I can live with it

    Redneck
     
    #16     Feb 23, 2009
  7. Sure. I'll divulge.

    For starters I said the market has at the MOST 2-300 points of downside left.....I'll leave it at that.

    The market will move up. Just like I said it will move down on Oct. 11....it will move up either middle of this week or early next week.

    For the record...(AND as a slight insult to yourself)

    This posted the EXACT day the market made the top.......
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=106444&highlight=recession

    This posted 4 days after
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=106704&highlight=recession


    I've got a vast assortment of calls sitting in my account....some in since Thursday and some added today and my account is showing a decline of less than 10% on all invested capital (hmmm how'd I do this?). I'm cool and collective.....

    The rally is coming Wed more than likely though.
     
    #17     Feb 23, 2009
  8. Ok...since you're the genius. What is a bear market. You define it and tell me why.

    I'm not making up definitions......I'm using common sense. If you knew anything about that you wouldn't be bitching up a storm.

    Wow. Why are you whining?

    I'll just post this again I guess......

     
    #18     Feb 23, 2009
  9. We need longs to ensure we have further to drop!

    Thanks for giving me that extra assurance I needed!

    If stock_turdl3r ever disappears, I'll have to reassess my paradigm/structural view.
     
    #19     Feb 23, 2009
  10. Mr Pain

    Mr Pain

    I have a feeling that the information age makes the falls much faster. I’m not saying we are coming out any faster, just that I think the dive is more steep.
     
    #20     Feb 23, 2009