hi, i just found a great software - wealth lab - in another thread here and love to mess about with it.. i like programming too - and learn the language too.. im a student with lot of free time and i was wondering if any of u r interested in designing a whole new system from scratch with me. we'll start with systems dynamics, about our philosophy of trading. we'll then discuss the required indicators. we'll then build and back test the application. it can be successful or failure. eitherway, you can learn from it - ur ideas, and systems design. reply to thread if intererested.