Who wants to live forever?

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Pekelo, Jul 7, 2021.

  1. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    I am horrified about the reality of mortality.

    That's a BIG reason I publish, for legacy.
     
    #11     Jul 8, 2021
  2. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    That is why they invented religion. I never understood why religious people fear death? But that is for an other discussion...
     
    #12     Jul 8, 2021
  3. You still have to play the hand you're dealt.
     
    #13     Jul 8, 2021
  4. Baron

    Baron Administrator

    It's like they say in the health coaching business:

    Your genetics is the gun but it's your lifestyle that pulls the trigger.
     
    #14     Jul 8, 2021
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  5. vinc

    vinc

    'Eighty-five percent of cenenarians are women and 15% are men. Among supercentenarians, the female prevalence may increase to about 90%.'

    https://www.bumc.bu.edu/centenarian/overview/

    I wonder if muscle building helps at least a bit to be in these 15 % :)

    Sinclair doesn't seem to be big on muscles and meat..also I find it puzzling that he never mentions c q10..
    on the other hand if you type in 'cenenarians' and select 'images' you don't really
    want it..
     
    #15     Jul 9, 2021
  6. vinc

    vinc


    well case not closed, actually far from closing:

    'The Role of Genes Versus Environment in Aging and Exceptional Longevity. Gerontologists often cite studies of lifespans amongst identical twins reared apart to describe the genetic and environmental components of aging. Based upon these studies, the common answer is 70-80% environment and 30-20% genes.'
    again:
    https://www.bumc.bu.edu/centenarian/overview/
     
    #16     Jul 9, 2021
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  7. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Cancer... runs in families
    Hypertension... runs in families
    Heart disease... runs in families.
    Dozens more, those are just the big 3.

    So if you do a study of two twins and they come from one of the above...

    Twin #1 one lives life like Freddie here... (that's a compliment Freddie) or Baron (ditto on the compliment)....

    But twin #2, he or she eats crap, drinks like a fish, both alcohol and soft drinks, and smokes a pack or two a day.

    Twin #2 dies at 64 of a stroke.
    Twin #1 dies @ age 72.
    Study confirmed.. it's all about lifestyle.

    Except.... twin #2 died of cancer.
    Through no fault of their own.

    Then there's the next door neighbor whose family has none of the above and lives a life somewhere in the middle of twin one and twin 2... ahhh... probably leaning a little more towards a twin #1 lifestyle as they roll into their late 60's or early 70's... wisdom sets in... and they live well into their 90's.

    A 30% increase... and that's a big deal.

    So its just like everything else... there's a 100 ways to run a study.
    Desired results are easy to achieve.

    I won't "close the case"... but my money's still on genetics.
     
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    #17     Jul 9, 2021
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  8. Ken, I have been thinking about your comment for several minutes before responding. In your mind how does having a permanent published record no matter how good, and having a possible legacy of respect and admiration that lasts for decades or even centuries, in any way give you some comfort regarding your apparent anticipation that you cease to exist at death.
     
    #18     Jul 11, 2021
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  9. And that would, of course, be overstating it just a tad. Making your observation that much more poignant.
     
    #19     Jul 11, 2021
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  10. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    How about looking at these in the 3rd world? You know, the people not living on fast food and sugary soda.

    Also one of the longest living group in the USA is the Mormons. Simply don't smoke, drink (excessively), and live a life of moderation in everything and you will be living into a fairly nice 80+ age.

    "Mormons tend to live longer, with a life expectancy of more than 86 years for women and 84 years for men in one long-term study — compared to life expectancies in the early 80s for women and mid-70s for men who were not Mormons."
     
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    #20     Jul 11, 2021