Who says we are not a socialist country?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Maverick74, Apr 25, 2006.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    "Real, true" socialism is also the economic system of most families. To each according to their needs, from each...
     
    #21     Apr 27, 2006
  2. WTF? Are you serious? Are you trying to make socialism sound warm & fuzzy?

    If you willingly give something to some else by your own free choice then you receive benefits from that transaction.

    That has nothing to do with socialism.
     
    #22     Apr 27, 2006
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    That has everything to do with true socialism. Sorry it's not the demon you hoped for.
     
    #23     Apr 27, 2006
  4. I agree. The warm fuzzy utopia theory is communism- remember, the state has withered so its all voluntary.... Socialism is another form of redistribution of wealth(government based instead of corporate control) supposedly on the path to communism.
     
    #24     Apr 27, 2006
  5. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Res, stop it, you are giving me goose bumps! :D
     
    #25     Apr 27, 2006
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    Correct. And it is the method of wealth redistribution in the normal American family. I wasn't trying to be anything so complicated as "warm and fuzzy".
     
    #26     Apr 27, 2006
  7. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Res, those are fighting words for dddooo. He will not agree with you. Beware of his wrath. May God be with you. :p
     
    #27     Apr 27, 2006
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    I'm not so sure dddooo would disagree with that statement.
     
    #28     Apr 27, 2006
  9. TGregg

    TGregg

    As much as I hate to agree with Ricter, he is correct. Most families do indeed function on some sort of socialist pivot. Examine for instance the farming family of old. The man and as many of the youngest as could farmed the land, while the women and assorted helpers did the rest of the chores. If one was ill, others pitched in to carry the load - it was socialism in the purest form.

    It's a wonderful thing, make no mistake. One works when one can, and others care for one when one is unable to work. One person is extra-smart and makes enough to bring home a big turkey, nice!

    For a family, or other small group, socialism works, and works well. Make no mistake. But what about larger groups? How happy are you that Joe Fat Phuck across the river is too large to do any work? Are you happy to support him?

    And imagine that you work extra hard to acquire some rare skill, or even say you plain studied yer butt off - should you share your earnings with your lazy cousin Earnest who's drunk a corn silo of whiskey?

    Do you understand that capitalism says that rewards go to those that earn them?
     
    #29     Apr 28, 2006
  10. Cesko

    Cesko

    A tax is an involuntary fee paid by individuals or businesses to a state, or to functional equivalents of a state, including tribes, secessionist movements or revolutionary movements.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax

    Please read the definition of tax. Going by that definition, we paid taxes. People in every freaking country with any sort of government on this Earth pay taxes.
    What are you arguing about ,stupid vocabulary or concept? You suffer from the same problem like all lefties,confusing theory with real world.
    How the hell all governments pay for itself? Please, please again, read the definition of taxes and you will know how.

    P.S. By the way if you argue about words, government doesn't own "means of production in socialism" people do (IN THEORY). That's what any commie will tell you. It's a big time bullshit but you don't care about that.
     
    #30     Apr 28, 2006