Who REALLY Caused The Financial Meltdown... and who tried to stop it

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Scataphagos, Apr 27, 2009.

  1. Who caused the financial meltdown??


    This video clearly shows that George Bush warned

    Congress starting in 2001, that this economic crisis was

    Coming, if something was not done. But Congress refused to

    Listen, along with the arrogant Congressman, Barney Frank..

    This video says it all..

    The liberal media reportedly did not want this video on

    Yo u Tube; it was taken off.

    This link is of the same video, but is routed through

    Canada . Everyone in America needs to see this before it is

    Yanked off the Internet again!

    Let's see how far we can spread it before it's

    Pulled it off the Canadian site.

  2. Ummm didn't Republicans control congress on 2001? It's amazing that you think giving loans to deadbeats caused a global financial meltdown.


    Many events in Washington, on Wall Street and elsewhere around the country have led to what has been called the most serious financial crisis since the 1930s. But decisions made at a brief meeting on April 28, 2004, explain why the problems could spin out of control. The agency’s failure to follow through on those decisions also explains why Washington regulators did not see what was coming.

    On that bright spring afternoon, the five members of the Securities and Exchange Commission met in a basement hearing room to consider an urgent plea by the big investment banks.

    They wanted an exemption for their brokerage units from an old regulation that limited the amount of debt they could take on. The exemption would unshackle billions of dollars held in reserve as a cushion against losses on their investments. Those funds could then flow up to the parent company, enabling it to invest in the fast-growing but opaque world of mortgage-backed securities; credit derivatives, a form of insurance for bond holders; and other exotic instruments.

    The five investment banks led the charge, including Goldman Sachs, which was headed by Henry M. Paulson Jr. Two years later, he left to become Treasury secretary.

    A lone dissenter — a software consultant and expert on risk management — weighed in from Indiana with a two-page letter to warn the commission that the move was a grave mistake. He never heard back from Washington.

    One commissioner, Harvey J. Goldschmid, questioned the staff about the consequences of the proposed exemption. It would only be available for the largest firms, he was reassuringly told — those with assets greater than $5 billion.

    “We’ve said these are the big guys,” Mr. Goldschmid said, provoking nervous laughter, “but that means if anything goes wrong, it’s going to be an awfully big mess.”

    Mr. Goldschmid, an authority on securities law from Columbia, was a behind-the-scenes adviser in 2002 to Senator Paul S. Sarbanes when he rewrote the nation’s corporate laws after a wave of accounting scandals. “Do we feel secure if there are these drops in capital we really will have investor protection?” Mr. Goldschmid asked. A senior staff member said the commission would hire the best minds, including people with strong quantitative skills to parse the banks’ balance sheets.

    Annette L. Nazareth, the head of market regulation, reassured the commission that under the new rules, the companies for the first time could be restricted by the commission from excessively risky activity. She was later appointed a commissioner and served until January 2008.

    “I’m very happy to support it,” said Commissioner Roel C. Campos, a former federal prosecutor and owner of a small radio broadcasting company from Houston, who then deadpanned: “And I keep my fingers crossed for the future.”

    The proceeding was sparsely attended. None of the major media outlets, including The New York Times, covered it.

    After 55 minutes of discussion, which can now be heard on the Web sites of the agency and The Times, the chairman, William H. Donaldson, a veteran Wall Street executive, called for a vote. It was unanimous. The decision, changing what was known as the net capital rule, was completed and published in The Federal Register a few months later.

    With that, the five big independent investment firms were unleashed.

    In loosening the capital rules, which are supposed to provide a buffer in turbulent times, the agency also decided to rely on the firms’ own computer models for determining the riskiness of investments, essentially outsourcing the job of monitoring risk to the banks themselves.

    Over the following months and years, each of the firms would take advantage of the looser rules. At Bear Stearns, the leverage ratio — a measurement of how much the firm was borrowing compared to its total assets — rose sharply, to 33 to 1. In other words, for every dollar in equity, it had $33 of debt. The ratios at the other firms also rose significantly.

    The 2004 decision for the first time gave the S.E.C. a window on the banks’ increasingly risky investments in mortgage-related securities.

    But the agency never took true advantage of that part of the bargain. The supervisory program under Mr. Cox, who arrived at the agency a year later, was a low priority.

    Source NYTimes


    You can blame jizzgobbler Barney Frank all you want. However who appointed William Donaldson?
  3. Arnie


    This started over 30 years ago. It wasn't any one person or group or the government.
  4. ron2368


    Why did it all go public a month before elections, seems like it hit the fan about then.
  5. Mnphats


    Agreed it wasn't just one person or group, it was government as a whole.
  6. I think that it is unfair to blame it all on barney because he was busy uphill gardening when he should have been keeping an eye on the economy. Too bad he was shirtlifting and getting his knickers in a twist about rent boys when he should have been doing his job.
    I twaught I taugh a puddycat...
    wannabe elma fudd

    One question for the septics on this forum -what kind of cnut voted him into office???
  7. Part of it did, you're correct. Reagan had his sins, Bush had his. But that doesn't absolve the Democrats for their part in pushing for loans to non-qualified borrowers and the consequences which followed.
  8. Perot Warned and warned and no one listened. He wanted to do what was right for this country. He had money he did not need anymore and just wanted to get us square again.
  9. One might approach this issue by describing under what conditions this would not have happened....

    The two party system is flawed....

    The lobbyist system....and the voting by advertising dominance are flawed concepts specifically....

    The system itself has to be revamped whereby politics and good economics could work more effectively together....

    Whereas now politics and economics are like oil and water....
  10. #10     Apr 27, 2009