Who profits when retail traders lose?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Option Trader, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. opt789

    opt789

    What he said.
     
    #21     Jun 25, 2008
  2. Amen to that. I lost plenty in the early years. If I believed someone had the "fix" in I never would have kept trying to make it. Looking back now, I can see why I lost money, it doesn't matter who I lost it to. Once you lose....you lose LOL.
     
    #22     Jun 25, 2008
  3. This was defo a factor but much less so now. I remember a collegue of mine who was broking in the late 80's and had a client who had made 16 trades 13 of them winners and was still in the red due to comms which were over 150 bucks R/T in those days for retail accounts. Even instituational accounts in the 90's were getting ripped I was charging a very big Telco 3.5 pounds a lots excuction and clearing one way and they were happy to pay try getting that now and they were doing size. Ching ching!!!
     
    #23     Jun 25, 2008
  4. I guess the 95% losers feed the 5% winners....thats a lot of money floating around. :D
     
    #24     Jun 25, 2008
  5. jd7419

    jd7419

    That is excellent opt789. Different strokes for different folks though. Anytime I try to reduce my commissions by trading less frequently it negatively affects my bottome line. I am at peace with my firm and subllc making a nice living off my commissions since I have profited handsomely as well these last 9 years. It's really just my cost of business.
     
    #25     Jun 25, 2008
  6. Cutten

    Cutten

    Exchanges, brokers, the taxman, and the small minority of consistently profitable traders.
     
    #26     Jun 25, 2008
  7. JSSPMK

    JSSPMK

    When I lost my account I recall calling them F...ing Cu..s!

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    #27     Jun 25, 2008
  8. Cutten

    Cutten

    My commissions to gross p/l is around 6% on my intraday trading.
     
    #28     Jun 25, 2008
  9. It all depends how you trade. Placing only a few trades per day, and aiming for decent sized moves pretty much makes spreads and commish a non issue.

    The issue is how well you place and manage the trades, which in itself takes a lot of practice.

    Scalping like a madman definitely requires some serious skill to avoid getting eaten up by commish and spreads. Its why I have never been able to do it.
     
    #29     Jun 25, 2008
  10. bighog

    bighog Guest

    Commissions are nothing more than a cost of doing business, deal with it.

    90% lose before they "GET IT", 10% will take your marbles because they "HAVE IT"

    Game over.

    PS: Fresno State is thumping Georgia in College world series. I hope they win, great story of underdogs. Some kid has smoked 2 homeruns and a long double and brought in 6 runs, if they win he will get laid at least twice when back at school.

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    #30     Jun 25, 2008