Who plans to get the covid 19 VACCINE when it comes out

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Gekko2020, Dec 14, 2020.

  1. wrbtrader

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    #561     Aug 23, 2021
  2. yabz

    yabz

    It would be interesting to know whether the people behind 'health-desk.org' actually read the papers they reference. For example the Nature article which they cite concludes:

    "ADE has been observed in SARS, MERS and other human respiratory virus infections including RSV and measles, which suggests a real risk of ADE for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and antibody-based interventions. However, clinical data has not yet fully established a role for ADE in human COVID-19 pathology. Steps to reduce the risks of ADE from immunotherapies include the induction or delivery of high doses of potent neutralizing antibodies, rather than lower concentrations of non-neutralizing antibodies that would be more likely to cause ADE.

    Going forwards, it will be crucial to evaluate animal and clinical datasets for signs of ADE, and to balance ADE-related safety risks against intervention efficacy if clinical ADE is observed. Ongoing animal and human clinical studies will provide important insights into the mechanisms of ADE in COVID-19. Such evidence is sorely needed to ensure product safety in the large-scale medical interventions that are likely required to reduce the global burden of COVID-19."

    This directly contradicts what health-desk are saying in their article and supports what I said, namely that it is still too early to say for sure whether the vaccines cause ADE.

    Its very easy to get vaccinated. Its impossible to get unvaccinated. Unless you think you are going to die of covid in the next 2-3 years, it would be folly in my opinion not to wait to see what the long term effects of these vaccines really are before making a final decision.
     
    #562     Aug 24, 2021
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  3. Turveyd

    Turveyd


    Logic :)


    You'd rrally think they would ruke out ADE before jabbing 7billion people, it's almost like there planning ADE to save the planet fir the Elite / survivors via depopulation, only thing that makes sense.

    Saldy shedding is 99% real, i suffer around the jabbed extreme tiredness and hunger, 17year old periods stopped mom had secretly had pfizer, pretended sne thought all hoax but really covid coward big time.

    Atleast I don't get the graphene oxide and associated blood clotts, after the 3rd or 4th jab the blood clot deaths are going to go crazy so ADE might not be requured, plan B.

    Animal studies lol they ALL died tells you all you need to know, never have all the animals died but still put in humans at all.

    None of the Elite have had the jab, don't even let teachers in there scbools have the jab lol
     
    #563     Aug 24, 2021
  4. virtusa

    virtusa

    When will you have certainty about the effect? In 5 years, in 10 years, or never?
    Do you have profound professional knowledge about viruses? The majority of the medical world is PRO vaccination. Are they all idiots?
    At this moment areas with low levels of vaccination have huge problems, so apparently vaccination helps.
    Funny that from all the vaccines that were invented the last decades, only Covid seems to be the only bad one.
    Do you really believe that all countries, and the entire pharmaceutical sector are in a conspiracy against the rest of the world? That size of conspiracy is unlikely as too many countries have conflicting interests and don't trust each other.
    Russia working together with the US? China working together with the US?
     
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    #564     Aug 24, 2021
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    #565     Aug 24, 2021
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  6. The FDA approval letter, issued today, was unusual. It stated that current bottles of vaccine, which are not branded with the "Cominarty" brand name, are still authorized, not approved. Only newer bottles with "Cominarty" labels will be approved, licensed product.

    What that means is that people cannot be mandated to receive vaccine from the old bottles. But if they do accept the non-brand vaccine, they cannot sue if injured.

    If they receive the branded vaccine and are injured, they can be mandated to take it, but they can also sue the company for damages.

    Here is what might be happening. FDA issued a license, so everyone thinks the mandate is now in effect. But if no "Cominarty" labelled vaccine is being administered, just the old authorized vaccine, there is no licensed product being used, and there is no actual mandate. And no ability to sue if injured.


    So: if it does not say "Comirnaty" it cannot be mandated. If it does say "Comirnaty," it can be mandated. But if it doesn't say "Comirnaty it is still experimental and you cannot be forced to take it, and if you do get injured, you are out of luck.

    Don't sign a liability waiver for this product! Don't sign away your rights if you take it.


    https://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2021/08/are-fda-and-pfizer-biontech-scamming-us.html
     
    #566     Aug 24, 2021
  7. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    All the jab makers are exempted from any damages done by there poision not suspicious at all.

    Johnson and Johnson put asbestos in baby talc ffs, they have no morals.

    Although all deaths even 5mins after taking are ofcourse entirely coincidental so not like they have to worry, odd also all covid positive tests dead within 28days are covid deaths even if they lose there head in a car crash.
     
    #567     Aug 24, 2021
  8. A lucky few seem ‘resistant’ to Covid-19. Scientists want to know why

    But it wasn’t his sudden decline and subsequent recovery that is notable: It’s that Andrade had been sharing the same close quarters with her husband while he was infected and able to transmit the virus. She never wore a mask in the home with him. They shared the same bed. They were physically intimate. Yet when tested for an active or past infection — twice — her bloodwork came up negative.

    And that wasn’t the only time she was potentially exposed. As part of her research work as a veterinary neurologist, she went to a meeting at the University of São Paulo where an infected attendee set off a chain reaction of positivity – but Andrade dodged it. Her tests were again negative.

    https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/23...ant-to-covid19-scientists-want-to-know-why-2/
     
    #568     Aug 25, 2021
  9. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    My guess is that Covid vaccination will be like Hep B, 3 shots and done. Hep B is given at 0, 1 and 6 months and then it is good for years. Alternatively, 2 shots with 4-5 months apart should be also pretty decent protection, specially if the person was already infected. We shall see.

    I made a prediction 3 weeks ago, I was using the Brits as model. My bad, forgot to apply the stupidity multiplier for Americans. Still, depending on which website's numbers we believe, the average daily death is around 775 (not adjusted for FL), not that much higher than my 600ish top guess, although it could still go higher. Florida seems to be peaking in cases a few days ago, a week later than my expectation. We shall see if there is going to be a quick drop off like in the UK, probably not because of the schools starting. The downslope of cases/death should be more gradual.

    https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailydeaths

    I think these numbers still need a FL (+200 daily) adjustment. They report their numbers in bulk per week, last 7 days was 1423 or something.
     
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    #569     Aug 25, 2021
  10. virtusa

    virtusa

    The scandals of Pfizer have nothing to do with the vaccine.
    The Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, sold under the brand name Comirnaty, is an mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccine developed by the German biotechnology company BioNTech.

    Pfizer helped financially and produces together with BioNTech the vaccine. Pfizer did not intervene in the creation of the vaccine. It was done solely by BioNTech. So the vaccine cannot be linked with the behavior in past from Pfizer.
     
    #570     Aug 25, 2021