Who plans to get the covid 19 VACCINE when it comes out

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Gekko2020, Dec 14, 2020.

  1. virtusa

    virtusa

    I found where this nonsense is coming from: https://greatgameindia.com/third-wave-two-vaccines-deaths/

    "According to projections by UK’s top modelling agency the third wave of COVID-19 spike will hospitalize and kill 60 to 70% of those people who took both the vaccine doses."
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    https://greatgameindia.com/be-a-part-of-greatgameindia/

    These are the people behind that website:
    We are a group of professional individuals who lived and grew in ‘Free India’ observing the social decadence, ethical downfall and moral bankruptcy that was and is spreading like a cancer in India along with the visionary leadership decline.

    They are writing about India. What has India to do with a top modelling agency? And what has a modelling agency to do with a scientific report about Covid?

    What's the name of that modelling agency?
    Is it one of these:https://www.ldnfashion.com/features/london-modelling-agencies/

    ROFLMAO.



     
    #531     Aug 22, 2021
  2. Turveyd

    Turveyd


    It was actually the governments SAGE Group that stated 70% of double jabbed would near hospital care over the winter, which is odd as SAGE are on the Pro Jab's pro lockdown side and they've been 100% wrong so far, so not listening at all to them, just odd!!

    Other Doctors, Dr Yeadon and others are saying 75% over 3 years and he used to run Pfizer so we can listen to me, although also a horrible company with 1000's of law suites against it.

    Jabbed are having more and more blood clotting issues, 3rd jab's start soon, that'll help right ?? Not newly jabbed longer it's in your system more the clotting kicks in.

    There is no other reason to push a not tested experimental jab on all, where all the animals they tested it on, died when infected with the virus ALL, but they didn't see that as an issue, guessing it's there goal.
     
    #532     Aug 22, 2021
  3. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    I'll add, if your scared of Covid, then take your jabs, lock yourself a way, never ever expect others to take a untested experimental drug because your scared.

    The jab's have killed 1000's and most of people the in hospital are jabbed at the moment, media/government is trying to play with down, ofcourse cause most are vaccinated, but 75% jabbed and 90% of them are double jabbed.

    The Pro Jab arguement would make sense, if the numbers supported it, it's just FEAR and propaganda, when a bully wants you to do something, do you do it ?? hell no!!

    What you really need to worry about is the government taking away all your rights and going communist police state, check what's happening in Australia currently and France if you think that's rubbish!!

    Covid is designed with jabs to stay and stay and create more shit, so they can take away all your rights, while you sit there scared.

    Covid is no worse than Flu without a Flu vaccine like 1998!!
     
    #533     Aug 22, 2021
  4. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    When I saw Nine_Ender post the below message...

    Nine_Ender_Covid-Harmless-Question.png

    I remember his debates with other ET members about Covid because I had the same debates (still do) with the same members that constantly posted misinformation here at ET...unchecked by ET management even when the report button was used.
    • Covid is a Democratic hoax. Factcheck: Covid does not know your politics.
    • Infected Mexican immigrants are the only ones infected and bringing Covid across the southern borders. Factcheck: Covid originated in China and spread to the rest of the world including the United States.
    • Most of those infected with Covid in the United States are those vaccinated. Factcheck: Most of the hospitalization, ICU admissions, and Deaths in the United States have been those that are not vaccinated.
    • Covid is no worst than the FLU. Factcheck: Review the below chart to understand FLU comparison misinformation. United-States-Covid-Deaths.png
    • Face masks do not work. Factcheck: Face masks do work if they're a N95 or better. In contrast, most created their own face masks out of cloth or purchase cloth masks made by others...some didn't wear their face masks properly.
    The above represent a few of the problems with the Covid misinformation that ET management is aware but I do understand that you let it go because there are other individuals that fact-check these individuals without ET management needing to get involved.

    Here's another fact that you've mentioned yourself or implied. The Obesity Prevalence is very high in the United States and states with the lowest Fittnest Ratio...these are the states with the most Covid hospitalization, ICU admission, and Deaths.

    Something else, states with the highest ethnic / social disparities also have the most Covid hospitalization, ICU admission, and Deaths.

    My point, there are other issues that determine the severity of a Covid infection beyond just eating healthy, exercising, no smoking/no drinking, and low stress. Simply, Covid is complicated and if we attack one issue...there are other issues putting the United States of America at a disadvantage.

    The issue remains that, in my opinion think Nine_Ender was trying to get to...misinformation does in fact kill and many that post misinformation here at ET are doing such because if they post it anywhere else such as Twitter or Facebook... it's deleted and/or they're banned.

    P.S. I almost died from double pneumonia / sepsis pneumonia in the fall of 2016 because I ignore the opportunity to get a Prevnar vaccine when I was on vacation in France.

    Covid Delta Variant is here...didn't want to be stupid twice even though I'm very healthy, do not smoke, drink a few glasses of wine each year, exercise 4 - 5 days per week, low cholesterol, low body fat and I've been taking Vitamin D / Zinc since my teenage years when I competed on the Junior National team. Hardcore winter hiker / winter camper.

    Covid Delta Variant is a game changer and I'm not going to give it a back door through my defenses like I did the pneumonia back in the fall of 2016.

    wrbtrader
     
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    #534     Aug 22, 2021
  5. themickey

    themickey

    I believe the amount of socializing also has an effect, young adults who roam around alot especially going indoors, those in high density living and then there's the hygeine aspect, people who are careless with cleanliness.
     
    #535     Aug 22, 2021
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  6. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Human beings do have a cleanliness problem. Prior to Covid and after the re-opening...I would use a public rest room and most would not wash their hands after taking a piss or shit.

    You would think that would change in a Covid Pandemic...the answer is NO. :(

    wrbtrader
     
    #536     Aug 22, 2021
  7. Pekelo

    Pekelo



    "My mother is experiencing kidney and and adrenal gland issues that 100% are an emergency, but we have been waiting in the ER for the last 24 hours trying to get her admitted. The waiting room is full of about 100 people. This is in SC. People with IVs and hospital provided oxygen tanks are kept out in the waiting room."

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    "I am an ER physician. It’s insane. I would have never something like this could ever happen in our country. All the hospitals in my county are basically at capacity, so EMS operates on a round robin schedule of just making us take patients even though there isn’t any more room. EMS is so backlogged, if you call 911 you might have to wait your turn until they can come to pick you up. I’ve never admitted so many ther wise healthy patients on oxygen, and am intubating at least a few patients per shift. I have patients proudly berate me every night for asking if they are vaccinated, all while we are administering oxygen to them. Then they want me to give them a big bag of “experimental” antibodies, yet they think we are all trying to poison them with the “experimental” vaccine. The cognitive disconnect is astounding. My wife really wants us to work for another 5 or so years, but I am ready to check out now. It would mean living on less money, but not being yelled at by assholes who think they know better than me all day long."
     
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    #537     Aug 22, 2021
  8. virtusa

    virtusa

    Humanity is pre programmed to destroy themselves, "self destructive behavior" it is called.
     
    #538     Aug 23, 2021
  9. virtusa

    virtusa

    Show me a link to an official statement from SAGE where they tell 70% will die. It is non-existing, cannot find it anywhere on the internet.
    Without proof of an official statement you are just telling BS.

    This is what SAGE tells: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14552316/graph-predicts-third-covid-wave-daily-deaths-below-100/

    "Pessimistic" model
    • Three different universities provided modelling to Sage - which warned last night the scale of a third wave is unknown.
    • Sage admitted the worst case scenarios are based on the “pessimistic but plausible” assumption that vaccines do not work as well as hoped.
    • Realistically, deaths are likely to stay in small numbers because vaccines prevent severe Covid disease.
    • There is also early evidence the jabs prevent transmission of the virus, which is crucial for suppressing mild cases of the virus.
    • Although it would be better if deaths came down to zero, scientists say this is not possible because Covid is so ingrained in society.

    My conclusion:
    • the size of the third wave is UNKNOWN
    • it is a pessimistic model, which is not the same as a realistic model
    • they speak about assumptions, not real hard proof, they just guess
    • they confirm that deaths will stay low!!! so nowhere mentioning 70% of deaths
     
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    #539     Aug 23, 2021
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  10. virtusa

    virtusa

    You should read again what you posted above.

    you wrote:"It was actually the governments SAGE Group that stated 70% of double jabbed would near hospital care over the winter"

    So it says 70% near to hospital care, but you translate it to: 70% will die. LOL.

    you wrote:"they've been 100% wrong so far, so not listening at all to them, just odd!!"

    So they were always wrong and now suddenly you believe them as you take the 70% they mentioned??? But two seconds later you say that you don't listen to them???

    You clearly have big problems in your head. But I knew that already a long time.
     
    #540     Aug 23, 2021
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