Who plans to get the covid 19 VACCINE when it comes out

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Gekko2020, Dec 14, 2020.

  1. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Much better than having no nurse at all. Plus I'm sure a 10 - 15 year veteran nurse that switches to as a travel contract nurse for Pandemic purposes is a quick learn about where to find things. :D

    Obviously only the big hospitals can afford salaries like that in comparison to your typical small rural hospital.

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    #521     Aug 20, 2021
  2. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Hey Baron, would you mind taking fewer showers? And don't even think about watering your lawn. The hospitalized Covid people on oxygen will thank you:

    "Orlando mayor asks residents to start conserving water immediately due to liquid oxygen shortage"

    "OUC has used liquid oxygen to treat the water supply for years. The process is called ozonation. Dyer said there could be impacts to the water quality if the city doesn't reduce the amount of water they need to treat."

    "It's another result of what happens when people don't get vaccinated, become critically ill and require medical treatment," Dyer said "If you haven't been vaccinated, now is the time."
     
    #522     Aug 20, 2021
  3. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    #523     Aug 20, 2021
  4. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Isn't Mississippi one of those states that did not pass that Emergency Healthcare law (I can't remember the name of the emergency law) ?

    Also, it's a poor state that underpaid nurses in comparison to nearby states. Simply, their nurses are going to work in nearby states for better pay during this Pandemic.

    It could be a reason why some states are paying crazy weekly pay rates to nurses to attract these travel contract nurses. My sister works in the North after having worked for two months as a travel contract nurse and is now working with several travel contract nurses from the southern United States.

    I know many places are fast-tracking their Nurses through the last year of their nursing program to get them in internships and paying them very well to attract more nurses while some states can't do it because they didn't set aside the funds for such...

    Simply, some states just did not prepare at the fault of their own although I don't know specifically why Mississippi is not as prepared as its nearby states.

    In addition, Mississippi seems to be having other problems that's specific to why they have nurse shortages...

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    Mississippi extended a state-of-emergency order on Thursday that was set to expire this week after the state hit a record of more than 5,000 new Covid cases in one day, said Reeves, a Republican. The spike in cases will likely be followed by an increase in hospitalizations and deaths.

    The state requested 65 physicians, 920 nurses, 41 nursing aides, 59 advanced practice nurses, 34 physician assistants, 239 respiratory technicians and 20 EMTs, according to Reeves. The extra help would open up 771 medical surgery beds and 235 ICU beds, he said.

    About 97% of people currently hospitalized for Covid in the state are unvaccinated, a trend seen throughout the country. This week, Mississippi’s daily hospitalization rate reached numbers higher than any the state has seen throughout the pandemic.

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    Also, if I'm not mistaken, isn't Mississippi one of those states that ignored the health guidelines back in February or March about re-opening while the Delta Variant was just starting to make root in the south in which the CDC were warning about ???

    I think it was Mississippi, Texas and Florida that had made headline news about being arrogant to the CDC guidelines...

    Clearing businesses to reopen

    Governors in Texas and Mississippi announced Tuesday that they would halt mask mandates and reopen their states, allowing businesses to operate at full capacity. They were followed Thursday by Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey, who announced she would extend the state's mask mandate until April 9 – but allow it to expire after that date and instead make mask wearing optional...

    Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves tweeted Tuesday that starting Wednesday, all county mask mandates would be lifted and businesses allowed to operate fully. Hospitalizations and case numbers have plummeted, and the vaccine is being rapidly distributed, he said: "We are getting out of the business of telling people what they can and cannot do."

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    At this point in a Pandemic in which we had face mask wear in which many objected, protested against and now doing the same with the Delta Variant bearing down on us...

    As I've stated a lot this year after March 2021...I shed no tears for these people that are now trying to put children at risk in schools with the same bullshit.

    They Reap What They Sow

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  5. virtusa

    virtusa

    I am starting to think that this wonderdoctor Zelenko is a pure scam.

    I watched the interview in a link on ET and he said basically "millions will die but there is a solution to survive. You should buy medication to neutralize the growth of the virus."
    Guess what I saw on Zelenko's website: HE IS SELLING THSE MAGICAL MEDICATION!!!
    So he is trying to get rich on lies and creating fear. Just what he accusses "the people who control all this" about.

    https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/

    He wants to make $55 a month from each person that is afraid. How long should you take that medication??? 1 Year? Lifetime?
    A quick phone call is possible too for just $250.
    He is a criminal scammer.

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  6. themickey

    themickey

    Delta Variant
    The Vaccinated Are Worried and Scientists Don’t Have Answers
    By Kristen V Brown and Rebecca Torrence 21 August 2021 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...p-up-with-virus-creating-worry-for-vaccinated
    • Anecdotes signal surprising number of infections in vaccinated
    • Officials must formulate plans despite a dearth of hard data
    Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. But exactly how often isn’t clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others. And now, there’s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.......

    ........One of the best known outbreaks among vaccinated people occurred in the small beach town of Provincetown, Massachusetts, as thousands of vaccinated and unvaccinated alike gathered on dance floors and at house parties over the Fourth of July weekend to celebrate the holiday -- and what seemed like a turning point in the pandemic. About three-fourths of the 469 infections were among vaccinated people........

    .......All that said, some facts are well established at this point. Vaccinated people infected with the virus are much less likely to need to go to the hospital, much less likely to need intubation and much less likely to die from the illness. There’s no doubt that vaccines provide significant protection. But a large proportion of the nation -- almost 30% of U.S. adults -- have not been vaccinated, a fact that has conspired with the highly contagious delta variant to push the country into a new wave of outbreaks.

    “The big picture here is that the vaccines are working and the reason for the spike in the U.S. is we have too little vaccine uptake,” Frieden said.

    To a certain extent, breakthrough cases of any virus are expected. In clinical trials, no Covid vaccine was 100% effective -- even the best vaccines never are. The more the virus is in circulation, the greater the risk of breakthrough cases. It’s also common for some aspects of viral immunity to naturally wane over time........
     
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  7. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    You've admitted to "two weeks of hell" when you got Covid and presumably based on your other posts you were relatively healthy otherwise. You aren't some frail old man. Yet I've yet to see you oppose any of the crap people post on your site claiming Covid is harmless to the "low risk". Doesn't sound harmless.
     
    #527     Aug 22, 2021
  8. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Now is the time, right before the deaths on MASS Start for the double jabbed, kinda cheating here, already started, the blood clott deaths are increasing aswell and with a 3rd jab starting soon, that'll help NOT.

    Or wait a few weeks, always have it later, see if the media stop covering it up, there trying hard to justify the huge increase in hospitalised which are double jabbed, it's almost like your actually better off without it LOL

    Obviously none jabbed fault, no logic in that, but hey the lefties and sheep will blame us no doubt.

    75% of double jabbed dead in 3 years, ohhh lets role this out and force on 7billion people then we'll see if there right, people have literally gone stupid!!
     
    #528     Aug 22, 2021
  9. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Grim Reaper in the United States of America...

    > 90% of hospitalization, ICU admissions, and Deaths are not vaccinated.

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    It's been sighted again.

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    #529     Aug 22, 2021
  10. Baron

    Baron Administrator

    Two weeks of hell for me is having to sit on the couch by myself on the other side of the house with my nose running, a headache, constant sweating and feeling lethargic without being able to interact with my family.

    If you're a health-conscious person who has a sensible diet and you exercise several times per week, your struggle with Covid will definitely be less than someone who does not. I've seen that scenario play out countless times among my friends. I know a lot of people who've had Covid, and I can tell you that the people in the worst shape physically were the ones that had the worst symptoms and were possibly even hospitalized. The ones in the best shape either had fewer or less severe symptoms, or they were able to power through the disease progression faster.

    I mean it all makes sense if you think about it. Covid and other viruses put a lot of strain on the body. It's literally a physical battle that's going on within you that you can feel. If prior to getting Covid, you were subjecting yourself to regular physical stress in the form of exercise or hard manual work, then obviously your body is more prepared to deal with that physical strain better than somebody who has been sedentary most of his life.

    Contrary to popular belief, I don't believe that there is a single right answer for everybody, so it's not a simplistic vaxxed or non-vaxxed argument in my mind.

    If you've been a sedentary person for the past decade and you're over the age of 35, then you should get the vaccine as a way to prepare your system against the disease. For that type of person, it's the better strategy to keep yourself protected chemically because you've never cared much about health anyway if you've been sitting on your ass for so long. I rented a house at the beach for the month of May and I took daily beach walks. It was a very busy month at the beach so it was packed with people pretty much every day. Based upon all the bodies that I saw on that beach, the vast majority of the population fits into the category I just described.

    On the flip side, if you're an active person who doesn't smoke, has a healthy diet and a rigorous exercise program, your best course of action is probably not to get the vaccine. I think that powering through the disease and coming out of it on the other side is the most comprehensive natural immunity you can obtain for yourself.

    And speaking of self, I am of the opinion that you and only you are in control of your own body. You need to make the best choice for yourself that you possibly can without any condescending judgment from others. As a matter of fact, it's probably best not to even tell your friends and acquaintances if you're vaccinated or not because it's none of their business and will just spark a stupid debate.

    Just a few years ago, health information was considered to be the most private of all information that's collected about you. Nowadays, people want to know the status of your vaccinations like it's somehow their privileged right to know. And I have no doubt that things will escalate to the point where the dates of your booster shots will need to be shown on your vaccination card as well to prove you're up to date with your shots, and not just a "one-timer" from 2020 or 2021, but I digress.

    Now is when we get into the debate about non-vaxxers getting sick, spreading the disease, and generally being "assholes" as they've been accused. One thing I've learned over the years is that people are never going to do what you want them to do all of the time. And I mean never. So if you're upset or angry about certain people not getting vaccinated and you're interpreting that as a threat to your own health because you don't want them to give Covid to you, then you better make sure you've got plenty of anti-depressants on hand because that situation is NEVER going to go away. That's like expecting for all of the uninsured drivers to get insurance one day or expecting for your health insurance premiums to drop because everyone is taking care of themselves healthwise. It's just never going to happen.

    The only person you have the ability to truly manage is yourself. So instead of looking outward to what everybody else is doing or not doing and letting that affect your emotional state, turn inward and ask yourself if there are things that you can do to increase your overall health and well-being. And if there are, whether it be getting a vaccine, or cleaning up your diet, or stopping smoking, or exercising, or losing some significant weight, then do it. Or do all of the above if that applies to you.

    In terms of spreading the disease, I can honestly say that we really don't know shit about that topic as a society. The disease spreads and morphs in ways that we don't understand because it's all happening in an invisible, real-time dimension that we cannot see.

    Ok, so what about precautions like masks?

    Masks are a good idea but the term "mask" is so loosely used and implemented that it's almost become a joke. When covid first came out, I bought a few snug-fitting cloth masks and I was pretty miserable wearing them month after month. I remember walking around in a store and wondering why everyone seemed like their mask was no big deal while I was suffering minute-by-minute. Eventually the day came when I drove to the grocery store and realized that I forgot my mask at home, so I asked the customer service desk if they had any extras. They had a whole stack of those baby blue disposable masks and gave one to me. As soon as I put it on, everything made sense to me in that moment. Those masks were a complete joke compared to what I had been wearing! They were flimsy and had half-inch gaps on each side, and I could actually breathe comfortably in them. It almost felt like I didn't even have a mask on at all. No wonder everybody else didn't seem like they were suffering while wearing them. They weren't!

    That's when I realized that the mask thing is a complete joke because there's no standard whatsoever for how a mask should fit, what it should be made of, and if there is, it's definitely not being implemented in practical terms by the public so the standard is meaningless. In fact, if you just sit in a public place on a bench and observe people walking by, you'll see that most people have those bullshit loose-fitting paper masks on, and most of them don't even wear them properly. You'll see people with pretty tight-fitting masks on but the top of it is sitting below their nose so they can breathe normally, which is just the stupidest thing I've ever seen. What's the point, right? So that takes us back to the original premise of my argument, which is... don't expect the people around you to do what you want them to do because it's never going to happen. It's up to you to decide how much you're going to let the actions or inactions of others bother you.

    So in summary, my advice is to go into all this fully understanding that the threat of the enemy is always around, and that Covid may enter your system one day if it has not already. If it does happen to you, the blame game of who gave it to you or how you got exposed to it will fly right out of the window. So take a legit assessment of where you're at healthwise today, and implement whatever you need to in order to protect yourself knowing that you, and only you, will have to fight that battle with full force when the time comes, and the only thing that matters is how prepared you are to fight.
     
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    #530     Aug 22, 2021
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