Who is the best for 2016

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Jan 28, 2015.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Only 2,503 awards over several decades.... and most of the money going to law firms that did the suing. This is actually an example of what is wrong with our legal system, where lawyers game the system... keep bringing suits hoping that 1 in 10 will stick and that they will keep 85% of the money won in the suit from the government fund. You know who was a whiz at suing this fund, John Edwards (presidential candidate and personal injury lawyer) who was indicted and put on trial for spending campaign funds on his mistress.
     
    #61     Feb 2, 2015
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #62     Feb 2, 2015
  3. jem

    jem

    finally, I am hearing a lot of people blaming the recent outbreaks of diseases on those (Americans) who don't vaccinate their children.

    this really seems to misplace the blame... the real issues is all the kids coming in with the diseases.

    the info is hard to track down but when I did track down the outbreaks in San Diego the outbreaks hit hardest in the areas and schools with large illegal immigrant populations.

    we really need to seal the borders for public health reasons.
    if the country wishes to bring in more people that is a political choice.. but lets make sure the immigrants are screened for diseases.
     
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    #63     Feb 2, 2015
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I agree with you that anyone coming into the U.S. should be vaccinated. If you are not vaccinated then you are not allowed into the country. If you are here already with no vaccination then it's deportation time.

    Vaccines work due to the concept of herd immunity. Americans who do not vaccinate their children are putting all of society at risk. As the number who do not vaccinate increases, the risk of a deadly outbreak greatly increases.
     
    #64     Feb 2, 2015
  5. jem

    jem

    you also have to understand the fund was set up to insulate the manufacturers from liability. anything set up by the likes of Ted Kennedy likely has a crony component.

    I do not understand... are you denying the simple idea that sometimes the vaccines cause injury?


    But hundreds of cases alleging other injuries fill the docket. In fiscal year 2014, which ended on Sept. 30, the court's special masters handed out $202 million to 365 vaccine injury victims, plus another $21 million in attorney fees, most of it for cases brought by people who had bad reactions to flu shots. In many instances, they developed Guillain-Barré Syndrome, in which the immune system damages nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis.

    Read more: http://www.nationallawjournal.com/i...e-Cases-Fill-This-Courts-Docket#ixzz3Qds796Ak



     
    #65     Feb 2, 2015
  6. loyek590

    loyek590

    it's pretty easy. You catch illegal aliens, and then you give them all their shots before you release them into the general public where they can be bona fide disease free illegal immigrants.
     
    #66     Feb 2, 2015
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You do realize the 0.001167% risk from vaccines is much less than the chance of dying from taking aspirin.
     
    #67     Feb 2, 2015
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  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yes, the fund was set up to insulate the manufacturers from liability - because in manufacturing medicine there is the slim possibility that something can go wrong with a dose or a child has a bad reaction to a good vaccine dose.

    You do realize that percentage of bad prescription and OTC drug doses due to a manufacturing defect is much high than vaccines issues - and that issues with drugs kill many more people each year than vaccines.
     
    #68     Feb 2, 2015
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  9. jem

    jem

    hey when you kid gets brain swells... do you care that he could also been hit by lightning?

    I don't get the point of denying the risk.

    Just say there is a risk... but the risk is worth it.
     
    #69     Feb 2, 2015
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The risk of not being vaccinated - which involves many of your family members and neighbors being dead - is much more of a problem that the minimal risk of a vaccine dose.

    Vaccines are the lowest risk part of medicine. Everything else - medical drugs, medical devices, medical electronics, medical procedures, etc. has a much high risk (by 400x or more) than taking a vaccine dose.
     
    #70     Feb 2, 2015
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