...but not my side. Some here would like to force women to bring unwanted children into the world. <b>How exactly do you plan to force all of these women to abstain from alcohol & cocaine use for nine months?</b> Your existing prohibition efforts aren't going very well, after all. Fetal alcohol spectrum disorder
On a first reading I agree, You and I and Muslims and Jews and Buddists and Christians should not be prohibiting something because their religions says it is sinful. But, how do you seperate legislation from morals. The foundation of law in the Western World is in part based on Jewish and Christian concepts. For instance how can you seperate religion from legislation. On one end of the spectrum you have anti murder statutes and on the other you have the now quaint closing of stores on Sundays. You agree I am sure that raping little boys and girls should be illegal. As well as murder. How about bribing foreign govt officials so you can extract oil. Where does religion stop and your version of morality become come unhindered by religious motive. Back on point while you might argue that I would vote for a prohibition of partial birth abortions because of my relgious views --- I can honestly state that I believe that once a fetus becomes viable, I see it as a murder/ protection of individual rights by the state issue. For me it becomes more of a religious/moral issue at pre viablility stages.
I once lived in a 'community' where over 1/3 of all children were FAS. Sad, sad waste. Irresponsible drunk mothers bringing children into the world that will, for the most part, never be anything but a drag on society. I say keep abortion legal. bt
Riserburn I will try to put my responses in one thread as to make it easier for me to respond. You seem to be getting carried away with your posts... First, this thread is not about Iraq, so quit going there. And bringing in other stuff from other threads okay? As far as adopting, someday I will probably adopt. I would like to. My wife does not want to have any more children (I do) and does not want to adopt either. So I obviously have a problem on my hands. I like kids. Do you? And I believe it was you who brought up adoption as an answer to the baby killing that is going on, not me. If you can quote me as stating this first, then do it. Bringing up the pharmaceutical companies and talking about how precious life is in America and what all you said about nursing homes and sex slaves and America being the #1 market for violence as entertainment tells me you have Anti-American issues that have nothing to do with thread. Stay on topic. You keep saying I am outraged. I am not. I am disgusted. I have already said this. And as far as anyone bitching, you are #1 in this thread for that!...:eek: You are bringing all kinds of **** into the thead. Calm down. Questions 1- You say you are worried about teenagers the most when it comes to unwanted pregnancies, ect. Do you have a teenage daughter? I bet if you do you don't want her to get pregnant and have a baby in your home do you? (Just a guess)... 2- Are you a female? You seem to be very outraged yourself about whether a female should be forced to carry a "fetus" for 9 months against her will. 3- Are you worried you will get a woman pregnant and YOU will not want the baby so therefore YOU will want her to have it aborted? 4- Have you had an abortion and want to feel like it was A-okay to do it? Just what is your real motivation for legalized abortion? Be truthfull with your responses.
What a lot of compassion you have RunningonEmpty. It's okay to butcher a few million unborn babies each year? 40 MILLION IN 20 YEARS (We need a reminder here)... Seems I have read that nature favors having the child over saving mommy as lots of women die during childbirth. Especially in pre-historic times? Let's see... You mention women wanting to hear from someone with a more sophisticated understanding of reproduction and yet in the sentence before it you say pregnancy is equal to carrying a "watermelon" in your "gut" for 9 months and then say "shit it out your ass". Wow, what sophistication created this smart talk? And if you think "babymaker" is childish, prudish (your issue?) or evasive then that is your psychological problem, not mine. I will change it so you won't feel so bad (sic) about it: If a woman wants to put a hanger up her vagina into her uterus and kill her baby, then so be it. Her choice. Bad choice. Can kill you. Quite the gamble. Dumb as hell too. One more thing. You mention taking an actual cue from nature. Where else in nature do animals abort their babies with medical intruments? Show me another animal that does this beside humans.
cronymshit, that's no way to talk to your master. now get your whtass back into the cage, the aspca will arrive soon to put ya down.
animals do no thave the ability to commit abortions but many species kill their young after they are born. i just watched a special on the discovery channel this weekend that said the male bear will kill its young if food is scarce. many other species also kill their babies.
Please refer to the post, or quote said post you may be referring to. Im unaware of any other poster who may be referred to by those initials, and to the best of my knowledge i havent actually posted in this thread at all, but selective administration has to be accounted for. Either that, or i posted something in the wrong thread entirely, who knows. In the meantime, of course, you can SHOVE IT WHERE IT FITS you GUTLESS COWARDLY TROLL MF#r. Perhaps this is off topic, but i digress.