Who is Responsible for Murdering over 40 Million people?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by version77, Feb 25, 2006.

  1. What a lot of compassion you have. Too bad it's only for the fetus (potential) and not the woman (actuality).

    Try taking an actual cue from nature. If a pregnant animal/human is stressed sufficiently, the embryo/fetus is spontaneously aborted. In other words, when push comes to shove, nature favors the proven and viable parent, not the potential, the 'may be' offspring.

    Most women would tell you to try carrying a watermelon in your gut for nine months, and then shit it out of your ass before you tell them they have to do the equivalent, or weigh in on the abortion issue at all. At least, they'd want to hear from someone with a more sophisticated understanding of reproduction and the issues surrounding it...so, I'd guess from someone who doesn't use childish, prudish or evasive terms such as "baby maker".
     
    #61     Feb 26, 2006
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    #62     Feb 26, 2006
  3. It may be rude to mention this, but that hasn't stopped me in the past:
    There is a perception that expectant mothers of African-American ethnicity have a <b>significantly more difficult</b> time finding acceptable adoptive parents for their unwanted babies than everyone else. It this true?
     
    #63     Feb 26, 2006
  4. it is the political process that is preventing black babies from being adopted by different race parents. there are thousands of white couples that would adopt black or other race babies. they are standing in line.
    I know 100's of adopated kids who have became very sucessful at life. they just need a chance.
     
    #64     Feb 26, 2006
  5. Great story, version. It's nice to see a positve outcome out of this thread.
     
    #65     Feb 26, 2006
  6. Touchy subject, I can see both sides of the debate. What I don't reason with is the libs who scream and yell over convicted killers being painlessly put to sleep (poor guys) yet applause the terminations of the innocent unborn. On the other side, if I was in office, I'd keep it legal. Less unwanted humans, less crime. I probably upset both sides this time. :(
     
    #66     Feb 26, 2006
  7. Pabst

    Pabst

    It sounds as if you and your wife are living proof that God's work can be done on this Earth. Bless you both!
     
    #67     Feb 26, 2006
  8. Now thats commendable. I am more inclined to believe that you actually have the interest of a child in mind when you talk about abortion from a pro-life stance. However, I still disagree with you if you truely believe that adoption is a solution.

    First of all, the statistics just don't show that that many people are interested:
    http://naic.acf.hhs.gov/pubs/s_seek.cfm
    If you can find 40+ million people like yourself in a 20 year time span that are actually willing to go through with it, you might have an arguement.

    Second of all, it still doesn't take the mother into account. While there are indeed questionable reasons why a woman would want an abortion, there are still enough circumstances that warrant giving those that are in a dire situation the right to make the choice. Its her body and her conscience. She's got to live with it; not you or anybody else.

    This is no different than the Terry Shiavo situation IMHO. The day the government can intervene and takes the right of that decision from you or your family is the day your body no longer belongs to you.
     
    #68     Feb 26, 2006
  9. Pabst

    Pabst

    Does a prostitute have ultimate legal control of her body? Or a drug user? Or a nude sunbather?
     
    #69     Feb 26, 2006
  10. Apples and oranges.

    Yes; she/he can choose not to prostitute. The laws governing the body aren't the issue. The use of the body to make money in exchange for sex is the issue. Therefore, its not a criminal issue of the body, but how one profits from the body.

    Yes; you can't be prosecuted for abusing your body by using drugs. You can only be prosecuted for possessing drugs.

    Yes; you can choose to keep your clothes on. If you choose to take them off on private property, away from prudes that are so incessed and embarrassed about someone else's body, there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it. Once again, the issue is not the body, but the cultural stigma surrounding the issues of a naked body by those that say they are insulted about seeing a naked one.

    All these are classic interjections of other issues about the human body that have nothing to do with the fate of one's own body; just someone else's moral perception of whats going on with someone else's body.
     
    #70     Feb 26, 2006