Who is really to blame for the war in Ukraine?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TimtheEnchanter, Jan 20, 2023.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    no, vatniks don't go by the epithet tankies. That's reserved for leninist/maoist types, many of which are useful idiot pro-Russians.
     
    #61     Jan 25, 2023
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You know that Saddam's Iraq had a lots of Soviet T-55, T62, T69, and T72 tanks. Hundreds upon hundreds of them. Dozens of mechanized divisions. At this point it is basically the same junk Putin is trying to use in Ukraine.

    Tell us how it worked out for Iraq when they met a much smaller number of American M1A1 Abrams tanks in the Gulf War. A mere total of 23 M1A1s were damaged or destroyed during the first Gulf war. In the second Gulf war, "One achievement of the M1A1s was the destruction of seven T-72s in a point-blank skirmish (less than 50 yards (46 m)) near Mahmoudiyah, about 18 miles (29 km) south of Baghdad, with no U.S. losses."

    If Russia's tanks are outdated junk, it will not help them much in an armor battle when they face modern heavy tanks. Ignoring that mere portable missile hits cause most Russia tanks to cook off in a spectacular fashion.


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    #62     Jan 25, 2023
  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    Just fucking MOAB them all. Enough! We're spending billions and billions of bux to have the Ukrainians fight them with BS weapons, when they can all be MOAB! Fuck, this war sux because of the no-fly zone, because we are afraid Putin will push nuke button.

    Maybe we should MOAB the damned Kremlin?



    Better yet, let's send the Kremlin some ammonia prills soaked in oil, to help them fertilize their crops this spring... They can store it in their basement, so they are safe from Ukranian shellings. Whoopsie daisy?

     
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    #63     Jan 25, 2023
  4. mervyn

    mervyn

    Lovely, let’s nuke each other, game over.
     
    #64     Jan 25, 2023
  5. easymon1

    easymon1

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    #65     Jan 25, 2023
  6. kashirin

    kashirin

    Cool, now at least I understand why so many young Polish are in UK and Ireland happy to work for minimum wage.
    It's because they have excellent quality of life in Poland. LOL.
     
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    #66     Jan 25, 2023
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    Where were nukes mentioned? That's just conventional shit, like fertilizer.
     
    #67     Jan 25, 2023
  8. wildchild

    wildchild

    Yeah lets claim they have WMDs and that we are going to be welcomed with flowers. The Bush/Biden/Clinton/Obama regime change wars have done wonders for us.

    Maybe we can even have a few arms dealers who are parading as US Ambassadors go out and get killed then we can claim it happened because of a Youtube video.

    Its always the turds who never served in the military who are always the most anxious to send other people's children into harms way.


    Here is a great video that sums up your brilliant idea. You can watch the thing because its pretty sweet or you can go to about the 5:30 mark and listen to the rest of the song because it pretty much sums up for thought process.
     
    #68     Jan 25, 2023
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  9. UsualName

    UsualName

    Poland’s GDP increased 250% and individual wealth of the Polish people increased nearly 50% in the ten years post joining EU. That was coupled with increased investment in infrastructure and education.

    Like I said breaking away from Russia is a quality of life decision.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/01/eu-poland-10-years-economic
     
    #69     Jan 26, 2023
  10. smallfil

    smallfil

    It is the war mongers who create all these problems and misery and endless wars the world over just to make monies. To be fair, we have them in both Democrat and Republican sides. That is why they hated President Donald Trump because of his peace thru strength. Russia probably, would not have invaded Ukraine if President Donald Trump was in charge. They would have found a peaceful resolution and saved countless lives.
     
    #70     Jan 26, 2023