Who is really to blame for the war in Ukraine?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TimtheEnchanter, Jan 20, 2023.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    So in 1991 Ukraine did not separate from Russia, it left the USSR. In 2014 the Ukrainians overthrew their Kremlin puppet of a leader over his rejection of opening free trade with the EU. The only coup that happened in 2014 was throwing out the Russians from Ukrainian government.
     
    #11     Jan 21, 2023
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  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Ukraine nor The US went into Russia and started killing Russians.
     
    #12     Jan 21, 2023
  3. Good, simple explanation. Putin / Russia did NOT start this war. Even wikipedia agrees!
    But they will finish it. And prolly soon.
     
    #13     Jan 21, 2023
  4. Arnie

    Arnie

    The OP has some valid points, but it is all moot now that Vlad has invaded. He could have gotten 90% of what he wanted at the negotiating table. Too late for that now.
     
    #14     Jan 21, 2023
  5. Who crossed who's border in the first place?
     
    #15     Jan 21, 2023
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Even FT is making sense
     
    #16     Jan 21, 2023
  7. elderado

    elderado

    You misstated - "Ukranians overthrew" - should be "CIA overthrew"
     
    #17     Jan 21, 2023
  8. themickey

    themickey

    Happens once every blue moon.
     
    #18     Jan 21, 2023
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  9. ids

    ids

    It was a very successful but quite standard CIA operation. It finished as the crown jewel of successful U.S. politics. A big war in Europe is a blessing. It is weakening strong "friends" and it is very profitable for U.S. corporations. Russia will be thrown back 15-20 years in history and nobody cares about poor Ukraine. The quid pro quo here is obvious.
     
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    #19     Jan 21, 2023
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  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    Ohh please and the French overthrew the British in the American Revolution according to your logic.

    The truth is that Russians were controlling Ukraine and the Ukrainians did not want it. I don’t know why you would give russia a pass on this.
     
    #20     Jan 21, 2023
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