Who is America?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Jul 15, 2018.

  1. Max E.

    Max E.


    Think about it for a second, you cant pay for people with pre-existing conditions, and have the price go down, its an economic impossibility, now we could have an argument all day on whether or not we SHOULD support people with pre-existing conditions, but the fact of the matter is it cant happen without someone paying the piper, that is the reason why obamacare sent rates soaring, and doctors dropped out...... you guys were true believers....... in my belief we need to talk about what to do with those people, but there is literally no economic model that would have them getting healthcare for free while the price goes down, its a lie on Obama's part, and its a lie in which only someone who is incredibly inept could believe to be true.
     
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    #71     Jul 24, 2018
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I only have a cursory understanding of the ACA, but I agreed with most of the bullet points, and it pissed off big insurance companies and right wingers, so by inference, it must be excellent legislation.
     
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    #72     Jul 24, 2018
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  3. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Again, ACA levied extra taxes to pay for that crowd plus if you bring in everyone into the pool using mandates, that means the risks are evened out. The government subsidized a whole lot of poor healthy people to get into the pool and the only one who were worst affected were freeloaders or out of pocket guys. You are not paying anything different than you were prior to ACA when 10% increases were the norm - look up the data yourself.
     
    #73     Jul 24, 2018
  4. Max E.

    Max E.


    So Theres one group your willing to admit paid more, "Young people..."

    How bout businesses was ACA good for businesses?

    Was ACA good for "Self Employed people"


    Who was ACA good for in terms of price? Heres a hint it was good for the people who couldnt afford healthcare, which is fine, in many peoples eyes, but when you sell it as a plan thats going to lower the cost of middle class people's healthcare and instead it doubles it, you should expect a backlash. The fact of the matter is the only people who got healthcare cheaper based on the ACA were people who didnt have healthcare, and people who didnt have a job, it was another boondoggle from the government that fucked the middle class.
     
    #74     Jul 24, 2018
  5. Max E.

    Max E.

    #75     Jul 24, 2018
  6. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Yes, young people who could afford paid more, the people who paid most were the super rich, ACA enacted a series of tax rises on them which is why GOP went apeshit about it.

    As for who was it better for - again it depends on where you were prior to ACA and where are you now. ACA has done nothing worse than how the system was prior to it, but now because you have a boogeyman, you can blame decades of a shit insurance market on ACA.
     
    #76     Jul 24, 2018
  7. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    #77     Jul 24, 2018
  8. Max E.

    Max E.

    This is an interesting philosophy, so young people who are generally healthy, going to university, living on minimum wage, can afford to pay more? Under what model can you prove that one? :D
     
    #78     Jul 24, 2018
  9. Max E.

    Max E.


    You link me to 2 left wing institutions i link you to one that is much closer to the center and im the bad guy.
     
    #79     Jul 24, 2018
  10. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Can you even read? You think people living on minimum wage were subject to ACA mandate?
     
    #80     Jul 24, 2018