Who done it?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TimtheEnchanter, Oct 3, 2022.

Who done it? and why?

  1. US

    8 vote(s)
    57.1%
  2. Putin

    4 vote(s)
    28.6%
  3. 3rd party

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
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  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I did, my friend! I hope you aren't disappointed.
     
    #41     Oct 6, 2022
  2. ids

    ids

    Either US or the green lobby is behind this action. It is idiotic to think that Russia is bombing itself but the press is pressing this idiocy hard.
     
    #42     Oct 6, 2022
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  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Ridiculous. Biden's always been against Nordstream 2 (as many in nat. defense). Anyone w/any familiarity about the project knows what he meant, that the agreement would be dead and the US would push the EU to end it.
     
    #43     Oct 6, 2022
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    Ridiculous, based on its history, to believe the US would not also consider using extra-legal means to kill the deal.
     
    #44     Oct 6, 2022
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  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    Hehe, not at all.

    Do you have a big mess to clean up, at home and at work?
     
    #45     Oct 6, 2022
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    except the deal was dead post invasion already so there was no need to double tap it.
     
    #46     Oct 6, 2022
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Oh yeah, was a total mess of debris and detritus. Work was relatively unaffected, which was bizarre because the office was in Tampa evac zone A, and our house was far enough outside the city where it shouldn't have been an issue. Of course Ian had different plans and turned hard right and went into the state, so home was much closer to the storm and the office went unscathed.

    Bah!
     
    #47     Oct 6, 2022
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  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    Germany could very well reconsider, the deal's not dead dead unless the pipeline no longer exists. Not so much they would reconsider their over-reliance on Russian methane, that they acknowledge, but the fact that with an eventual end to hostilities, some amount of reduced purchasing of relatively low cost Russian methane could and likely would resume. With the US looking to expand LNG exports, it is not at all a zero percent chance the US had something to do with disabling the pipeline.

    I don't know for sure, and neither do you.
     
    #48     Oct 6, 2022
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

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    TheMickey in the other thread posted a good summary article demonstrating Russia destroyed the pipelines -- even outlining the units involved in the destruction.
    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/russia-ukraine.364278/page-807#post-5690465
     
    #49     Oct 6, 2022
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    What is there to know? We all expected NG gas to resume at the end of hostilities if Russia packed and went home or once Putin was hanging by the rafters and if EU felt charitable enough. The "US" is not "looking to expand LNG exports" by blowing up pipelines, that's just conspiracy conjecture. LNG companies are looking to expand LNG exports. LNG companies did not provoke a Russian invasion to boost their exports, LNG companies are seeing record profits and an increase in exports because of the Russian invasion resulting in outrage and sanctions.

    FWIW: The US has been warning EU exactly against this scenario because we ourselves are in this scenario, aligned and our nat. sec. reliant on autocratic regimes.
     
    #50     Oct 6, 2022