Who do you want to win the war?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by OPTIONAL777, Mar 27, 2003.

  1. What is more dangerous:

    1. Democracy

    2. Dictatorship


    pretty simple decision for those who understand both systems.
     
    #71     Mar 27, 2003
  2. Except the American Indian nations... Some of which had democratic rules. I think your rule would work by saying ... with a democracy that believes in western property rights (in the way Locke described).
     
    #72     Mar 27, 2003
  3. The issue is whether or not the country was ruled by Monarchy, or a democratic process.

    GB was still under the rule of Monarchy...not a prime minister elected by a democratic process.

    Once again, you would not let the facts get in the way of propaganda, would you Wild?

     
    #73     Mar 27, 2003
  4. MRWSM

    MRWSM



    HEY MOHAMMED, They haven't cut your electric power yet there in Baghdad?

    I say on 9/12/2001 we should have nuked Afghanistan & Iraq. Then we would pose the question "Anybody else want to F*uck with us?":D
     
    #74     Mar 27, 2003
  5. who cares what people "think"???who cares who you are rooting for???? This isn't a f#ing basketball game ...this is war....we will prevail and we will kill 100,000 Iraqi's and it's all the fault of MSFE, France and Germany....If SH was facing a united front from the begining, he would have collpased and disarmed and it would have ended...they gave him the openign and these dumb ass peacenik protestes are KILLING more troops with every televised protest....IF SH thoughthe was isolated he would have taken exile in Saudia Arabia or libya by now....Instead he's hiding under ground hoping that we will stop ...thus more people will have to die.
     
    #75     Mar 27, 2003
  6. "So you think we should invade countries that terrorize their citizens?? "

    Absolutely. And as the only remaining super power and the strongest Democracy on earth, we actually have a RESPONSIBILITY to do so. We have double responsibility in Iraq since we got mixed up with him in the 1980's.

    There is self interest in this whole thing, but it is simply to attack our natural enemies to insure our own survival. That is what WWII was about, that is what the cold war was about, and that is what Gulf War II is about.
     
    #76     Mar 27, 2003
  7. "these dumb ass peacenik protestes are KILLING more troops with every televised protest"

    Well said.
     
    #77     Mar 27, 2003

  8. "I'm afraid" is a figure of speech, Optional. I'm not actually fearful (nor ashamed), I just prefer not to state where I live.

    I'm not sure what you were attempting to imply by the German immigrants comment, but I can assure you that the chances of YOU being a German immigrant (why the italics?), given that you live in the United States, are far higher than mine.

    This all beside the point, anyway.
    If you want to play these pre-teen games, find someone else.

    My nationality and where I live have no bearing at all on my opinions on this matter. (As much as you might like to believe otherwise.)
     
    #78     Mar 27, 2003
  9. exactly the point. so long as it's America's standard, Americans seem to have little problem with it, which makes perfect sense.

    the problem is what if China (or Pakistan, or Russia, or whichever country with substantial military/nuclear power) decides that its standards should apply instead, and those standards are in conflict with America's. that is the reason the rules are supposed to be agreed upon and enforced by consensus, isn't it?
     
    #79     Mar 27, 2003
  10. msfe

    msfe

    Government Iraq

    Country name:

    conventional long form: Republic of Iraq
    conventional short form: Iraq
    local short form: Al Iraq
    local long form: Al Jumhuriyah al Iraqiyah

    Government type:

    republic

    Capital:

    Baghdad

    Administrative divisions:

    18 governorates (muhafazat, singular - muhafazah); Al Anbar, Al Basrah, Al Muthanna, Al Qadisiyah, An Najaf, Arbil, As Sulaymaniyah, At Ta'mim, Babil, Baghdad, Dahuk, Dhi Qar, Diyala, Karbala', Maysan, Ninawa, Salah ad Din, Wasit

    Independence:

    3 October 1932 (from League of Nations mandate under British administration)

    National holiday:

    Revolution Day, 17 July (1968)

    Constitution:

    22 September 1968, effective 16 July 1970 (provisional constitution); new constitution drafted in 1990 but not adopted

    Legal system:

    based on Islamic law in special religious courts, civil law system elsewhere; has not accepted compulsory ICJ jurisdiction

    Suffrage:

    18 years of age; universal

    Executive branch:

    chief of state: President SADDAM Husayn (since 16 July 1979); Vice Presidents Taha Muhyi al-Din MARUF (since 21 April 1974) and Taha Yasin RAMADAN (since 23 March 1991)
    elections: president and vice presidents elected by a two-thirds majority of the Revolutionary Command Council; regular election last held 17 October 1995 (next scheduled for 2002); note - in place of the 2002 election, a presidential referendum was held on 15 October 2002 in which the presidency of SADDAM Husayn was extended for a fifth consecutive seven-year term
    election results: SADDAM Husayn reelected president; percent of vote - 99%; Taha Muhyi al-Din MARUF and Taha Yasin RAMADAN elected vice presidents; percent of vote - NA%; note - in a presidential referendum held 15 October 2002, SADDAM Husayn's term was extended for another seven years
    cabinet: Council of Ministers; note - there is also a Revolutionary Command Council or RCC with eight members as of 2001 (Chairman SADDAM Husayn, Vice Chairman Izzat IBRAHIM al-Duri) which controls the ruling Ba'th Party; the RCC is the highest executive and legislative body and the most powerful political entity in the country; new RCC members must come from the Regional Command Leadership of the Ba'th Party
    head of government: Prime Minister SADDAM Husayn (since 29 May 1994); Deputy Prime Ministers Tariq Mikhail AZIZ (since NA 1979), Hikmat Mizban Ibrahim al-AZZAWI (since 30 July 1999), Ahmad Husayn al-KHUDAYIR (since NA July 2001), and Abd al-Tawab Mullah al-HUWAYSH (since NA July 2001)
    Legislative branch:
    unicameral National Assembly or Majlis al-Watani (250 seats; 30 appointed by the president to represent the three northern provinces of Dahuk, Arbil, and As Sulaymaniyah; 220 elected by popular vote; members serve four-year terms)
    elections: last held 27 March 2000 (next to be held NA March 2004)
    election results: percent of vote by party - NA%; seats by party - NA

    Judicial branch:

    Court of Cassation

    Political parties and leaders:

    Ba'th Party [SADDAM Husayn, central party leader]

    Political pressure groups and leaders:

    any formal political activity must be sanctioned by the government; opposition to regime from Kurdish groups and southern Shi'a dissidents

    International organization participation:

    ABEDA, ACC, AFESD, AL, AMF, CAEU, CCC, EAPC, ESCWA, FAO, G-19, G-77, IAEA, IBRD, ICAO, ICRM, IDA, IDB, IFAD, IFC, IFRCS, ILO, IMF, IMO, Interpol, IOC, ISO, ITU, NAM, OAPEC, OIC, OPEC, PCA, UN, UNCTAD, UNESCO, UNIDO, UPU, WFTU, WHO, WIPO, WMO, WToO

    Diplomatic representation in the US:

    none; note - Iraq has an Interest Section in the Algerian Embassy headed by Akram AL DOURI; address: Iraqi Interests Section, Algerian Embassy, 1801 P Street NW, Washington, DC 20036; telephone: [1] (202) 483-7500; FAX: [1] (202) 462-5066

    Diplomatic representation from the US:

    none; note - the US has an Interests Section in the Polish Embassy in Baghdad; address: P. O. Box 2051 Hay Babel, Baghdad; telephone: [964] (1) 718-9267; FAX: [964] (1) 718-9297

    Flag description:

    three equal horizontal bands of red (top), white, and black with three green five-pointed stars in a horizontal line centered in the white band; the phrase ALLAHU AKBAR (God is Great) in green Arabic script - Allahu to the right of the middle star and Akbar to the left of the middle star - was added in January 1991 during the Persian Gulf crisis; similar to the flag of Syria which has two stars but no script and the flag of Yemen which has a plain white band; also similar to the flag of Egypt which has a symbolic eagle centered in the white band
     
    #80     Mar 27, 2003