Alfonso, listen carefully to those hardcore warmongers. now they´re teaching you "American values" - the liberated Iraqis are next in line.
I honestly don't think that overthrowing all the corrupt locales is the correct policy. The successful completion of the task at hand and the removal with prejudice of the regime will go a long way in the understanding we mean business piece. Following that with some honest rebuilding of just Afghanistan, Iraq, and the African Continent will do wonders also. Round it all out with an equitable and honest Israeli agreement, and the process will have a great start. Promote international banking and commerce and honestly show their populaces how to feed and house themselves better and the long-term growth process will be irrevocable. Further power adjustments can be caused by avoiding openly (and covert as well) the Saudi and Emerites areas as they will then have to openly deal with their own grumbling masses. You see they have fiscal abilities, but as everywhere else they are hoarding for the select few. Growth everywhere else will start that wagon sliding also. Further, we have played with Cuba long enough. They desire an improvement also. Add in the correct carrots and the same slide can happen there. The real giant foreboding question is, can we keep our own political/commerce greed in check so as not to taint and negatively exploit the newfound gains? But I think that scenario provides a much easier task than trying to locate every possible terrorist out there.
Cuba can be eroded with other moves that would not involve one bullet. I think the successful completion of this Iraq engagement will provide the platform for a new way to talk to the whole planet as human rights go. And I think that a policy could be struck that could make a real difference. You see rather than continuing to grow the gap between the political savvy, the economic's understanding industrial based masses, and the technological future challenged third world, we need to start to develop a new baseline for the whole. I see so many who, of their own choosing, doom themselves. Mindset growth/work is needed all over the world. Too often we couch things and misunderstandings behind religious beliefs and suspicions. I gotta' believe we can bring the base understanding of world/technology progress forward. There IS a true disconnect in the year 2003 when a sheep/goat herder in the middle of the desert has no regularly accessible clean water, poor hygiene, little food, a strong hatred of America, and a satellite dish and cell phone.
Villepin refuses to say which side he supports By Anton La Guardia, Diplomatic Editor (Filed: 28/03/2003) France's attempt to repair relations with America and Britain over Iraq backfired yesterday when Dominique de Villepin, their foreign minister, refused to say which side he supported. During a speech in London, M de Villepin said he hoped for "a swift conclusion with the minimum possible number of casualties". But asked by The Telegraph whether he hoped American and British forces would win the military campaign to remove Saddam Hussein, he replied angrily: "I'm not going to answer. You have not been listening carefully to what I said before. You already have the answer." M de Villepin had come to London to mend fences after the bitter disputes over the failed attempt to secure a UN resolution authorising war, saying: "We must rebuild the world order shattered by the Iraq crisis." But his apparent reluctance to choose sides will have done serious damage to his charm offensive. Senior British officials said they were "stunned". Embarrassed French officials tried to salvage the situation by pointing out that, on French television on Monday, M de Villepin said: "Clearly, we hope the US will win this war quickly." One diplomat said: "We have no hesitation about where we stand." But M de Villepin's faux pas is likely to harden suspicion in America and Britain of his demands that the UN take over the administration and rebuilding of Iraq after the downfall of Saddam Hussein. Michael Ancram, shadow foreign affairs spokesman, said: "It is beyond belief that the French foreign minister was unable to bring himself to look forward to a coalition victory and the liberation of the people of Iraq from the tyranny and oppression. "France appears to be backing herself into a corner from which she cannot get out." M de Villepin, who speaks fluent English, did not meet any British ministers when he came to London to deliver a lecture to the International Institute for Strategic Studies. However he briefly met Sir Michael Jay, former ambassador to Paris and now head of the Diplomatic Service. The Foreign Office said no snub was intended as the Foreign Secretary was with the Prime Minister at Camp David. "Jack Straw said he would have been happy to meet M de Villepin had he been in London," said a spokesman. In his address, M de Villepin said France was ready to re-establish a "close and trusting relationship with the United States". But his comments made clear that the rift is far from being bridged. Moreover M de Villepin did himself few favours with Washington when, recalling the "bleakest time in our history" during the Second World War, he extolled Winston Churchill and Charles de Gaulle but left out Franklin D Roosevelt's role in the liberation of France. M de Villepin argued that the use of force should be subordinated to "law, justice and legitimacy" if it was not to provoke a "clash of civilisations". He seemed more concerned with the need to constrain America's doctrine of "pre-emptive" action than removing the danger posed by Saddam. He spoke more about the "destabilising" effect of America's resort to force than the destabilising impact of weapons of mass destruction in the hands of rogue states. M de Villepin derided American hawks for believing that "democracy can be imposed from the outside" and that "international legal tools become constraints more than safeguards of international security". He said: "We do not oppose the use of force. We are only warning against the risk of pre-emptive strikes as a doctrine. In endorsing this doctrine, we risk introducing the principle of constant instability and uncertainty." Despite the disagreements over Iraq, M de Villepin said there were many areas where united international action needed to intensify. He said there should be greater intelligence sharing in the campaign against terrorism, and co-operation to limit the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Highlighting the looming crisis in North Korea, he proposed a permanent group of UN weapons inspectors. Having threatened to veto UN approval for military action, M de Villepin insisted: "The UN must be at the heart of the reconstruction and administration of Iraq. The legitimacy of our action depends on it." M de Villepin's central message was that a world dominated by a supremely powerful America was dangerously unstable. Instead, there should be "a number of regional poles" that co-operate with each other. One of those would be the European Union and M de Villepin was keen to draw the British Government into a common foreign and security policy that would be dominated by France and Britain.
I hope one day Earth would get rid of George W. Bush and Saddam Hussein at once ! This has now become a very popular song. --- QUOTE --- 18 years ago, Sting wrote those words to the Russians. Today, with some slight changes, they perfectly fit the Americans. I personally love the part which says âThere's no such thing as a winnable war, It's a lie we don't believe anymoreâ. Russians (Americans) In Asia and Africa, there's a growing feeling of hysteria Conditioned to respond to all the threats In the rhetorical speeches of Rumsfeld Mr. Bush said we will liberate you I don't subscribe to this point of view It would be such an ignorant thing to do If Americans love their children too How can I save my little boy from Washington's deadly toy There is no monopoly of common sense On either side of the political fence We share the same biology Regardless of ideology Believe me when I say to you I hope Americans love their children too There is no historical precedent To put words in the mouth of the president There's no such thing as a winnable war It's a lie we don't believe anymore Mr. Bush says we will disarm you I don't subscribe to this point of view Believe me when I say to you I hope Americans love their children too We share the same biology Regardless of ideology What might save us me and you Is that Americans love their children too --- UNQUOTE ---
That is so poignant.....There is also a song by TOBY KEITH ( who happens to be an American, which STing is not)....called "THE ANGRY AMERICAN" .....'WE'LL PUT A BOOT IN YOUR ASS , IT'S THE AMERICAN WAY!!!
...Right Alphonso, listen to a queer European...within a month you will stop showering, be a coward and will be experimenting with young boys in nazi dance halls
What's with all this "coward" talk TM? What exactly is cowardly about being defeated by a superior military force (if mfse is French)? I notice you, yourself, haven't volunteered to fight for this cause you so strongly believe in. Pretty easy to be "brave" behind your white picket fence.
Alphonso....Aside form being young and queer, can i ask you how you know whether i served this country or not? Of if im brave or not? You eve been stabbed son? ...and Im talking about stabbed with a knife, not your your uncle jose's schlong.