Who are the market makers?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by farmerjohn1324, Jan 12, 2020.

  1. You don't affect the price of things. People with lots of money do.
     
    #11     Jan 12, 2020
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  2. zdreg

    zdreg

    #12     Jan 12, 2020
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  3. IAlwaysWin

    IAlwaysWin

    I'm not ashamed to admit that I ride the coattails of the banks and traders moving lots of money. I do the opposite of what the average retail trader does. Works pretty well.
     
    #13     Jan 12, 2020
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  4. notagain

    notagain

     
    #14     Jan 12, 2020
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  6. Real Money

    Real Money

    The prime brokers will fade retail and lure speculators into moves using their control of the basis. They can offer heavy into the basis and then pull the offer to print a rally in order to lure long spec into a move.

    They do this to move the market into favorable price levels. Once the price levels get where they want them, they can move huge size by bidding hard into the offer.

    This will give arbitrage to HFT market makers which allows the bulge brackets to do huge size at a level they know is temporary (because they forced the market to this level). This is so they beat VWAP (they guarantee VWAP to their clients).
     
    #16     Jan 12, 2020
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  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    #17     Jan 13, 2020
  8. Deez

    Deez

    What does that look like on a chart?
     
    #18     Jan 13, 2020
  9. zdreg

    zdreg

    No. The US is the loser as China grows stronger.
     
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    #19     Jan 13, 2020
  10. Real Money

    Real Money

    This is a synthetic portfolio with a typical (unhedged) asset allocation. This is 28% blue chip stocks and 72% treasury bonds. You can see them working the market to get liquidity so they can get hedges on and/or take hedges off.

    Synthetic Portfolio (Institutional) (Prime Brokerage).png
     
    #20     Jan 13, 2020