Who are the idiots buying bonds for 1% interest?

Discussion in 'Economics' started by misterno, Aug 13, 2010.

  1. Looks like a nice opportunity for you gents today, innit?
     
    #91     Aug 18, 2010
  2. just noticed that TLT +2% today again
     
    #92     Aug 19, 2010
  3. Well, you should have also just noticed the claims number and Philly Fed, no?
     
    #93     Aug 19, 2010
  4. bone

    bone

    Well, apparently it's too early for anybody to be calling for a mutual circle jerk.

    You just don't start a rant on a forum because fixed income has experienced 10% + price appreciation YTD, declare it overdone, watch it come off ~ 1/2% in a day, and declare yourself victor and supreme market guru.

    Again, I'll make a point born of experience: wait for a solid close below that long term trendline and then short the market - let the market tell you where it wants to go.

    It is so easy to burn through capital to satisfy ego. Give up range in exchange for confirmation. And learn how to trade relative value. You have to be able to preserve capital and not repeat mistakes to make it in this business.
     
    #94     Aug 19, 2010
  5. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    I agree Bone. Once again, those that are long are getting paid on price, and quite well at that.
     
    #95     Aug 19, 2010
  6. You guys are so achingly anxious for this to go up it's hilarious. You may be worried about burning through capital, but since the 2y is currently trading 1 or 2 ticks off where I sold it, I'm not nearly so worried.

    If you want to be long, go long. I think it's retarded, but I can't see any reason that I should care what y'all do. Just ask this question: why can't the 2-year trade higher than it did last Weds. after that Fed report?
     
    #96     Aug 19, 2010
  7. bone

    bone

    Well, every day I look at my statements for CME, CBOT, Liffe, Eurex, Brokertec, and Cantor-Fitz reminds me that without a doubt as a speculator I get paid on price.
     
    #97     Aug 19, 2010
  8. That's nice. And if price had moved against me, you'd sort of have an argument. But it hasn't.
     
    #98     Aug 19, 2010
  9. Daal

    Daal

    Whats your target for those bonds?Because I'm tired of seeing people get into debates about all the 'reasons' they have a trade on, then they take profits as soon as it moves in their favor claiming to be for 'technical reasons'
     
    #99     Aug 19, 2010
  10. You can be tired of whatever you like, and I'll take profits whenever I feel like.

    My eyeball guess is that I might see 109'08 before expiration. Of course, I could decide to roll it forward - I'm being offered a discount to do so. No fixed plans yet.
     
    #100     Aug 19, 2010