Which way? Gold.

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by themickey, Aug 20, 2019.

  1. themickey

    themickey

    Gold futures sitting ~$1700, cash atm ~$1685, .....which way?
    Bouncing upward from this point my call, maybe not today but within a day or two.
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    #101     Apr 17, 2020
  2. Specterx

    Specterx

    IMO the gold market is overbought. I see short-term upside to 1800 but the market will need 3-6 months of consolidation before the next big run to ATHs.

    Still a bull market, though.
     
    #102     Apr 17, 2020
  3. themickey

    themickey

    My methods of analysis is a database of numbers and gives a window to the future of only a day or two or three, which is enough time to change stock positions, normally a dump in or dump out of multiple holdings event.
    Right this moment gold's in a risky spot, it could drop like a rock but am leaning toward short-term upside to 1800 like you are.
    Beyond that is a bridge yet to be crossed for me.
    Overbought and oversold is not in my vocabulary. :)
     
    #103     Apr 17, 2020
  4. easymon1

    easymon1

    sr gold
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    #104     Apr 19, 2020
  5. easymon1

    easymon1

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    #105     Apr 25, 2020
  6. easymon1

    easymon1

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  7. themickey

    themickey

    The way I do things doesn't lean toward this type analysis, let me explain....
    Every stock has quirks, with HMY for example, this stock would carry geopolitical risk that Newmont doesn't, this can be seen in volatility between the two.
    So on a stock by stock analysis, some way gyrate intensely, others may be perceived slightly overbought or oversold vs its peers and react to self correct, working in opposite directions to each other on a short term basis.
    What I do is measure sentiment of the whole sector, eg gold - not the individual stock.
    Regarding individual stocks, my method is over a period of time I create a watchlist of best candidates, screen out unsuitable stocks, keep the ones I consider have best potential.
    When I get a buy signal on the gold sector, I would normally hit the buy button on all my watchlist contenders simultaneously.
    Same with exits, hence my words in above post "Normally a dump in/ dump out event".
    If you look at chart below, notice the general correlation in price of HMY & NEM (Newmont).
    This correlation would extend to numerous gold stocks.
    So, instead of concentrating on individual nuances of a stock price, grab a bunch.
    The only thing is, one needs to be reasonably experienced in reading the mood of the market because you are committing reasonably large moolah in this method simultaneously.
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    #107     Apr 27, 2020
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  8. themickey

    themickey

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/g...es-like-these-2020-05-05?mod=newsviewer_click

    Opinion: Gold as an investment is made for times like these
    Published: May 5, 2020 at 2:56 p.m. ET
    By Jared Dillian

    The yellow metal is poised to hold its purchasing power as the Federal Reserve prints money on a massive scale
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    The average Wall Street trader believes all kinds of crazy stuff.

    One long-running theory claims that the federal government has something called the Plunge Protection Team, or the PPT. If the stock market drops toward the end of the day, the PPT swoops in and rallies the market before it closes.

    Or, so the story goes. I’ve never believed a word of it.

    There’s a similarly crazy conspiracy theory element among gold investors. But you don’t have to believe a bunch of crazy stuff to own gold. And you absolutely do want to own some gold, especially now.

    Gold standard
    Long ago, the U.S. had a gold standard. This meant people could exchange their dollars for a fixed amount of gold.

    The U.S. dropped away from a strict gold standard in the 1930s, and President Nixon abandoned it altogether in 1971. Since then, the dollar has been a “fiat currency.” Meaning its value isn’t tied to anything tangible such as gold. Those little green pieces of paper, and the digits in your bank account, are only “money” because the U.S. government says they are.

    A gold standard is inflexible. So it stops the government from doing things like quantitative easing (money printing), which increases the number of dollars in circulation, and could potentially lay the ground for high inflation. Or so the theory goes.

    I’ll be frank: I would like the U.S. to return to a gold standard, but that is never going to happen. So we’re stuck in a world of unlimited quantitative easing (QE) and other Fed funny business.

    Which means this is a world where you want to own gold.

    Yes, I think it’s a little weird that people invest in shiny rocks. However, this has been going on for up to 5,000 years. Some people say technology will change that. Yet it keeps happening.

    Purchasing power
    The fact is, gold has maintained its purchasing power over a huge span of history, and that isn’t likely to change.

    Over the last 70 years, for example, gold’s inflation-adjusted annual return was 2.1%. In other words, gold has held its purchasing power. And that’s what it’s supposed to do.

    Many investors argue that gold GC00, 0.06% performed poorly at the beginning of the current crisis. Initially, yes, it slipped from around $1,700 per ounce to $1,470 in mid-March. Now it’s back up around $1,700. And it’s likely going higher.

    So, really, gold has continued to do what it’s supposed to do. It’s performed pretty well. And, given the government’s reckless monetary actions —including its foray into modern monetary theory (MMT) — it’s going to perform well long after the acute phase of this crisis passes.

    One of the big reasons people buy gold and drive up the price is the fear of inflation. This is why gold shot from roughly $800 per ounce in 2009 to $1,900 in 2011.

    Infinite QE
    The Fed started its very first round of quantitative easing, called QE1, during this period. People thought it would cause a lot of inflation, so they bought a lot of gold.

    The inflation never happened, but gold still climbed higher because people feared it was lurking around the corner.

    Something similar is happening now. But this time, the Federal Reserve isn’t doing a finite amount of quantitative easing like it did with QE1. This time, it’s going to do an infinite amount of quantitative easing.

    Once again, people fear this will result in inflation, and reasonably so. I have the same concerns myself.

    Gold is bound to keep rising in this environment. Because the Fed can print an infinite number of dollars, but it can’t print gold.

    The price of gold also goes up when the federal deficit grows, as it’s doing now. This was the other reason gold more than doubled between 2009 and 2011: The government’s annual budget deficit soared into the $1.8 trillion neighborhood.

    Now the government is talking about running the biggest deficit in the history of the United States. Even bigger than we had in World War II.

    And that bodes well for gold.

    The biggest reason to own gold
    Gold has a lot going for it: QE, inflation fears, and a giant budget deficit, to name a few.

    However, the biggest reason to own gold is that it smooths out the volatility in your investment portfolio. Add a little bit of gold, and you’ll pretty much get the same overall returns. But you’ll cut your volatility in half.

    This is why I encourage my readers to allocate 20% of their investment portfolios to gold.

    It’s not about conspiracy theories or other nutty stuff. It’s about better risk-adjusted returns. And that is something to get excited about.

    Jared Dillian is an investment strategist at Mauldin Economics, editor of The 10th Man newsletter and host of “The Jared Dillian Show” radio program. Follow him on Twitter @dailydirtnap. Mauldin Economics holds a live virtual conference May 11-21.
     
    #108     May 5, 2020
  9. Gold definitely going higher....not close to being overbought...yet.
     
    #109     May 5, 2020
  10. Ed48

    Ed48

    #110     May 6, 2020