which version of Win 7 should I install ?

Discussion in 'Trading Software' started by Wallace, Aug 19, 2013.

  1. thanks for replies, very helpful
    may be purchasing a new computer so the change to Win 7

    methods on the web describing how to unlock the Home edition . . .

    Scataphagos: "There are still some 64-bit issues . . " what issues ?


    how much ram for 64 bit ? same software as I'm running now which works fine
     
    #11     Aug 20, 2013
  2. How much hard drive space does your Windows 7 64bit installation take up? Microsoft say you need about 14gig.

    I have a 30gig solid state disk drive just for the operating system but the installation has mushroomed to 26.6gig!?! Is this normal?
     
    #12     Aug 20, 2013
  3. rwk

    rwk

    I have Win7 Home Premium (64-bit), bought in 1/2010. The c:\Windows directory is now 33.4GB. I have 1TB main drive (88% empty) and a 340GB backup.

    I am guessing most of the additional space you're using is registry bloat. I don't know much about what is used for paging. I'm not an OS guru.

    I used to think having an SSD for booting would be cool, but I have read that Windows is not optimized for SSD. I would also be concerned about files that are updated a lot, such as registry, paging, and cookies.
     
    #13     Aug 20, 2013
  4. Can't specifically say what issues. There just are some from time to time which affect 64-bit but not 32-bit.

    You can run as much RAM as you want up to the limit of your mobo on 64-bit. Whether or not you actually use a large amount is a separate issue. W7-64bit, along with video card driver and a few other startup items will occupy around 1G of RAM.

    You only "need" 64-bit if your software use requires more than 32-bit can handle well.
     
    #14     Aug 21, 2013
  5. murrica

    murrica

    A latest generation SSD such as an Intel 520, even for the boot drive, will likely offer a superior general computing experience under W7 (and most OS'es).
     
    #15     Aug 21, 2013
  6. Haven't heard that one.

    All machines in my network run on SSDs... the oldest one has been in use for 4 years. I've got a couple of 10K Velociraptors which I've used for troubleshooting. They are noticeably slower all around.
     
    #16     Aug 21, 2013
  7. I'm still on Windows 3.1. Time tested.
     
    #17     Aug 21, 2013
  8. there's a Lot of utilities for W 7 plus various 'optimization' enhancements on the web

    one thing required for an SSD is 'TRIM': 'To get the best performance, the SSD needs
    new information from the operating system regarding deleted data. Information that
    spinning disks did not need. Information provided by the TRIM command.
    Windows XP and Vista do not support TRIM."
    http://blogs.computerworld.com/ssd/20839/windows-7-and-ssds-3-things-look-out
    W 7 supports TRIM but needs to checked if it's turned on:
    'Make sure TRIM is turned on. TRIM is a special set of commands that help SSDs
    effectively manage empty space on the disk (if you’re curious you can read more
    here). Open up the command prompt and type in the following command:
    fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify
    This lengthy command has a very simple output, either a 0 or a 1. If you get a 1, TRIM
    is not enabled. If you get a 0, TRIM is enabled. If you need to enable it type the
    following command:
    fsutil behavior set DisableNotify 0'
    http://www.howtogeek.com/97242/how-to-migrate-windows-7-to-a-solid-state-drive/

    I'd install W 7 to the ssd and Only use that drive for charting/order entry programs -
    NinjaTrader, MetaTrader 4 - 2 or 3 of them, EOD MetaStock, notepad, crap cleaner
    firewall, anything else ?
    I'd use the regular hd for browsing and everything else, have an anti virus installed
    there plus the firewall, not sure if W 7 needs to be installed there also - does it ?
     
    #18     Aug 21, 2013
  9. Bob111

    Bob111

    Brother Wallace like to over complicate things:)
    You have to read what each version is for and what the requirements are for each version. It's really simple. I have win7 home premium on one pc, sitting on intel ssd which was on sale last black friday. Amazing performance. Windows bots up like a light bulb.you press power-few second s later-done! Trim or no trim-I just put all the s**t together and evrything work right out of the box.
     
    #19     Aug 21, 2013
  10. If your HDD is going to be for storage only, you won't need W7 on it. If you plan to sometime run the HDD separately, you'll need W7.

    Would make sense to have any AV or separate firewall program installed on the SSD also.... would take less time to boot/start if they were on SSD rather than if they were on HDD.

    Personally, I like everything on one drive/partition. That way I'm not making separate backup images.

    SSDs aren't that expensive these days. You should have one large enough for the OS plus all the programs you run frequently/daily. Use the HDD for programs run occasionally and for mass storage if they won't fit on your SSD... photos, video, music, large amounts of data, etc.

    Max performance speed is usually at about 240GB. That's the smallest drive where most makers have their maximum parallel capability. That is, a 240GB is faster than anything smaller and equal in speed to anything bigger. However, the 240GB isn't all THAT much faster than a 180GB or 120GB.
     
    #20     Aug 22, 2013