Which is worse: Losing, or opportunity lost/leaving $ on the table

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by .sigma, Dec 26, 2019.

  1. IOW... "Cut your losses short, let your profits run". Where have we heard that before??
     
    #11     Dec 26, 2019
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  2. Disagree. So long as your capital is intact, you can always fight another day.
     
    #12     Dec 26, 2019
  3. dozu888

    dozu888

    stop asking questions lol..... every day you miss on the qqq run is real money you leave on the table.... as real as money lost.

    just go all in already.
     
    #13     Dec 26, 2019
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  4. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    Opportunity loss/cost not when you miss out on a trade blah blah blah but more so when you miss out on an opportunity because you are stuck trying to day trade for many years with nothing to show for it. That loss is more than losing all your money trading :D.

    so perhaps listen to Dozu with the difference being all in which might work better via all in cost averaging. Lol
     
    #14     Dec 26, 2019
  5. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    Some people should not be day traders.
    Knowing what doesn't work is as important as knowing what does work.
    Applies to both business and personal life.
    Being "stuck", and "for many years", is personal: has little to nothing to do with trading. Many a waiter never become Hollywood celebs: they remain waiters or not.
     
    #15     Dec 26, 2019
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  6. imjohn

    imjohn

    An avg loss for me is 10-12 ES ticks and a win is about 18. The WL is about 50/50. At times, I exit winners with a trailing method, and the wins may net as many as 40-50 ticks. With this math, intentionally skipping trades stalls my progress more than unavoidable losing streaks.

    After skipping a winner, my mind becomes fixed on the "profit gap". I start thinking, had I just stuck to my plan, I'd be up X amount of ticks/dollars. I then might try something outside of my trade plan, in an attempt to get back on par with where I should be, such as skipping another trade ("maybe I'll skip a loser now") or taking a completely random entry. This sequence of events happens enough days, and it becomes a bad habit that will not be easy (for me) to break.

    That said, if I miss a winner because I stopped trading to go doing something else, or because I fell asleep on the job, that's a different situation and not a big deal. I don't feel bothered at all.
     
    #16     Dec 26, 2019
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  7. IAlwaysWin

    IAlwaysWin

    All three! If you're losing, you're leaving money on the table. Most likely because you didn't take action. That's why serious traders automate to eliminate these issues if you have an edge of course.
     
    #17     Dec 26, 2019
  8. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks


    Easiest way to break a habit is to replace with new.
    TRADE TO TRADE WELL and money takes care of itself!

    The "should" thing is over-think/wishful-think. No different than "it's time", "it's/I'm due", "profit gap": they exist in thought, not reality. Without being preachy, where you are, is a precise relationship with the actions(or lack of) you have taken based on knowledge you posess.. you "should" be exactly where you are!! The sequence of w/l means nothing. TRADE TO TRADE WELL! The money takes care of itself.

    Just discussing. Nothing personal. Happy Holidays!
     
    #18     Dec 26, 2019
  9. schizo

    schizo

    Those who leave $ on the table (and assuming they got out break even) are just lucky. Otherwise, the trade would have turned out as a loss. They're like those who pretend they got a real bargain buying outdated merchandise at second-hand store.
     
    #19     Dec 26, 2019
  10. MattZ

    MattZ Sponsor

    If you go through a sequence of losses, and stopped believing in your system due to doubt, and do not take the trade that could have made it all back, then it's the worst.
     
    #20     Dec 26, 2019
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