Which came first? The chicken or the egg?

i dont undrerstand how scientists cud think that's not the case when logic is badly stuck against their conclusions, i sure understand why zizzo thinks it is the egg first, but reputable academics?

 

didn't ya know?
A chicken with an egg to hatch was put on earth by a bunch of extra-terrestrians.

 

Some factoids from Google University:

Chickens came from the red jungle fowl (Gallus gallus):
http://www.birding.in/birds/Galliformes/red_junglefowl.htm

still an egg-laying bird part of a large family of egg-laying birds:
http://www.birding.in/orders/galliformes.htm

Two things are going on: mutation and variation. Variation happens all the time, as offspring are the products of random recombination of characteristics coming from the male and female parent. Kids look like their parents but are not exact copies.

Mutations can also take place in the gametes of the parent(s) leading to offspring containing new characteristics. If they favor the reproductive survivability of the offspring, the characteristics persists. Eventually, the process of variation and mutation leads to speciation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciation

 

So one day, a full fledged non chicken laid a full fledged chicken egg...

LMAO....

Nope. You might make a case for a chicken having evolved from some other bird species over millions of years (though evidence is surely lacking) but for the record, define exactly the point at which a non chicken became a chicken through this process, which would have a non chicken lay an egg that would suddenly be a chicken...and not a non chicken.

Unless you are talking about magic, all chickens come from chicken eggs....which do not come from non chickens.

 

Your birth is absolute proof that speciation can happen in a single reproductive cycle.

The exact point at which a non-chicken became a “chicken” is when the human captured his first red jungle fowl. The taste in its meat and eggs inspired humans to select and breed chickens containing better tasting meat and eggs.

As for the chicken and the egg: they both happened at the same time: both the egg and the embryo –from breeding chickens humans selected from other chickens.

By the way, it doesn’t necessarily require millions of years for a red jungle fowl to emerge. It actually depends on the hardwire of the genetics responsible for the characteristics, as well as catastrophic environmental events. At the same time, it’s unlikely that the red jungle fowl came about after just one generation.

 

Your birth is absolute proof that speciation can happen in a single reproductive cycle.

Please explain.

The exact point at which a non-chicken became a “chicken” is when the human captured his first red jungle fowl.

Please explain.

The taste in its meat and eggs inspired humans to select and breed chickens containing better tasting meat and eggs.

No, the taste migh have inspired breeding of jungle fowl....not chickens.

As for the chicken and the egg: they both happened at the same time: both the egg and the embryo –from breeding chickens humans selected from other chickens.

Nonsense. The chicken and the egg do not happen at the exact same time.

By the way, it doesn’t necessarily require millions of years for a red jungle fowl to emerge. It actually depends on the hardwire of the genetics responsible for the characteristics, as well as catastrophic environmental events. At the same time, it’s unlikely that the red jungle fowl came about after just one generation.

Poppycock

 

so zizzo go back to dinosaurs; they layed eggs didnt they, its the same shit...apparently science agrees that it is possible fishes have grown legs and started to walk the earth and then evolved into these huge beasts...of course u can say also fishes came from a singularity--egg--although they also lay eggs, they cud have very well have evolved from plancton or single cell water organism and develop to be capable to reproduce that way, innnnnit..

 

Agree, the egg must have come before the chicken. But what came before the egg?

One came before the egg. Just like zero couldn't exist without the one,
the egg couldn't have existed without the one in it either.

 

i dont think the questions scientists are askin' 'emselves are specifically related to the chicken-egg paradox but more to creatures in general that lay eggs...

 

We agree that the laying of eggs produces eggs, that produce offspring.

So, a chicken comes from what?

A laid chick egg....

Where did the chicken come from?

A non chicken egg?

Nope...not unless you believe in magic.