Where Are We Headed?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Pabst, Jun 23, 2002.

  1. Pabst

    Pabst

    Seems to be a healthy divergence of opinion on ET about this market. Two of the most popular recent threads have been "Dow Crashing " and "Market Has Bottomed" Well, seems we may be at an inflection point. So lets have our own Market Vane Sentiment Poll among ET's members.

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  2. Babak

    Babak

    I'm not sure what you mean by :

    Where will Sept S&P Close The Week?
     
  3. You left off the most important one:

    I have no opinion.
     
  4. vitajex

    vitajex

    I think he means the September contract of the S&P
    futures, though that could be SP or ES (they're pretty
    close, anyway).

    My guess is that we'll move higher this week. The threads
    "Dow Crashing" and so on have given a good summary of
    some indicators pointing to a short-term bounce, among them
    the moderately high level of the VIX and high CBOE putcall
    ratio reading.

    Also, I just read this story under the "Motion Pictures" industry
    group on Lycos Finance News, so you know sentiment is
    pretty dismal.

    http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?symbols=INDUSTRY:64&story=27594412

    -v
     
  5. Bono

    Bono

    But this week has nothing to do with whether the DOW is crashing or not ... or whether the market has bottomed or not ... we may very possibly go up this week ... but the DOW could still be crashing and the bottom could still be much lower ... no ?
     
  6. if it's done right we could all be right!

    anyway I hope we do bounce cause mondays after bad fridays aren't always good to wake up to.

     
  7. Kymar

    Kymar

    It's got to be the S&P 500 INDEX - which is what most people and their pets will be watching, and without which the futures contracts, after all, could not exist.
     
  8. TAguru5

    TAguru5

    Here's some interesting commentary I came across this weekend....

    Whenever the stock market closes lower on both Thursday and Friday of options expiration, it's a short-term danger sign for the first 1-2 days following expiration.

    Those of you who've been around for some time probably remember the '87 crash. What you may not remember is that the market was headed sharply lower during the week preceding the crash, and that the crash occurred on the day right after options expiration.

    Below is a list of all instances over the past fifteen years in which the S&P closed down on both Thursday and Friday of options expiration. Note that in the majority of cases, the S&P posted another lower close (below Friday's level) within two sessions...

    06/21/02 - ???
    02/15/02 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    09/21/01 - No lower close
    06/15/01 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    12/15/00 - Lower S&P close on Tuesday
    09/15/00 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    05/19/00 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    02/18/00 - Lower S&P close on Thursday
    01/21/00 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    05/21/99 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    08/21/98 - Lower S&P close on Thursday
    06/19/98 - No lower close
    05/15/98 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    12/97/97 - Lower S&P close on Tuesday
    10/17/97 - Lower S&P close on Friday
    07/18/97 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    02/21/97 - Lower S&P close on Thursday
    02/16/96 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    12/15/95 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    08/18/95 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    01/20/95 - Lower S&P close on Tuesday
    11/18/94 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    10/21/94 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    04/15/94 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    02/18/94 - Lower S&P close on Wednesday
    09/17/93 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    07/16/93 - Lower S&P close on Thursday
    05/15/92 - No lower close
    08/16/91 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    04/19/91 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    08/17/90 - Lower S&P close on Tuesday
    04/20/90 - Lower S&P close on Tuesday
    12/15/89 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    08/19/88 - Lower S&P close on Monday
    10/16/87 - Lower S&P close on Monday

    In 31 of the past 34 occurrences, or 91% of the time stretching back to 1987, the S&P has closed below Friday's level within one week. And in roughly 75% of the cases the S&P posted a lower close within two days, with the most likely day for a selloff being Monday.
     
  9. Mike777

    Mike777

    IMO the market will be driven by earnings warnings/results over this week.
    There is already a lot of negative expectation priced in but more announcements about job layoffs etc would send the market down a hole, conversely, positive statements could do the opposite.

    In other words, I have no idea which way it will go, but my bias is up due to the extremes we are getting to.
     
  10. Opinions mean nothing in the stock market. I checked with the psychic hotline to find out what is really going on. Futures will dip on the open, then start to rise 6 minutes into the market. Thats all I could afford at 3.95 per minute.
     
    #10     Jun 23, 2002