When SPY Sells off 5% in Two Days

Discussion in 'Options' started by timetotrade, Aug 21, 2015.

  1. Greetings,
    I am somewhat of an option newbie. The SPY has sold off about 5% in the last two days. That is a rare occurrence and seems to happen every few years. In the past, this type of sell-off will usually get a bounce in a day or two and then might sell-off again. What are some good options strategies to use over the next couple weeks looking for the bounce? And then what might be a good strategy to use after the SPY trades higher for a couple days and I expect it to go to new lows?

    Thank you for any feedback.
     
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  2. Only a few people know the reason why but the big firms do not want you to know how it is manipulated and they have been good at shutting down any news sources that try to put the real info out there. I read somewhere the real reason for this sell off is because the Fe
     
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  3. aqtrader

    aqtrader

    Last time SPY down more than 5% in two days is Nov 1, 2011. Here is the complete list:
    Find the worst down in 2 days?
    19971027 -8.1631
    19980827 -5.2511
    19980828 -5.0519
    19980831 -7.4699
    19981001 -5.8414
    20000414 -7.0276
    20010312 -7.1114
    20010403 -5.3989
    20010918 -5.4521
    20010920 -5.1321
    20020710 -6.0671
    20020719 -6.6454
    20020722 -6.3781
    20020723 -5.6192
    20020805 -5.6432
    20080929 -7.7904
    20081006 -6.3746
    20081007 -9.3438
    20081008 -6.8850
    20081009 -9.3272
    20081010 -9.2401
    20081015 -11.1791
    20081016 -6.0891
    20081022 -8.2684
    20081027 -8.4415
    20081106 -9.5110
    20081112 -7.3518
    20081117 -6.2521
    20081120 -13.3555
    20081201 -7.7105
    20081202 -5.3502
    20090130 -5.2180
    20090217 -5.3072
    20090302 -6.6385
    20090303 -5.2212
    20090330 -5.1979
    20110808 -6.6522
    20110819 -5.8745
    20110922 -6.0830
    20111003 -5.2736
    20111101 -5.1322
    20150821 -5.1133
     
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  4. Jakobsberg

    Jakobsberg

    WOW they even shut down your post before you could tell us the reason. Hope your still alive :eek:

    As for the original question the options strategy is the easy part (OTM puts and calls to be aggressive of for less risk look at spreads) the difficulty is getting the direction right. No reason history should repeat itself.
     
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  5. i960

    i960

    That's the joke. :)
     
  6. aqtrader

    aqtrader

    The worst two day in Dow index since 1960 was down 26.17% on the black Monday Oct 19, 1987 following a Friday down 4.6%. The major reasons were said programming trading, market psychology and overvaluation. That sounds similar now. Will be fun to see what is going to happen next Monday.
     
  7. Jakobsberg

    Jakobsberg

    Jag vet ;)
     
  8. "when vol is high short vega long gamma.. " see samuel1 haha. when vol is low long vega short gamma... basically use the calendar! trade calendars! go deeper into the calendar .. that is my thoughts... I am not going to get into the discussions about rational or irrational markets or conspiracy theories.. If you have strategy it should include this plus much more downside.. but my guess is it's uncertainty surrounding borrowing costs and the ancillary effects of monetary policy abroad reverbing back home
     
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  9. md2324

    md2324

    Anyone know what Deviation levels the SPY/SPX hit over these last few days during this huge drop / selloff ?

    Just wondering for Selling Credit spreads, if selling at strikes that were 3 SD OTM would still have you " Safe" in your position

    Thanks much
     
  10. Your asking if you were selling otm credit spreads at 12 vix what would your risk look like right now..... Bad!!!! Chart a 190-185 credit spread for Sept expiration a see
     
    #10     Aug 21, 2015
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