When Selling Options, What Delta & Expiration Date Do YOU Like?

Discussion in 'Options' started by zghorner, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. taowave

    taowave

    Hi,you are operating under the assumption that most traders continuously delta hedge..

    I would guess that most traders sell 85-95 percent spot put,light some candles and say a little prayer...




     
    #31     Sep 22, 2019
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  2. That explains why their P&L sucks. Your typical deity is not options-savvy; all that "thou shalt/shalt not" crap is is obviously way too binary. Might work for day-traders, but for derivatives? Shyeah.

    I mean, think about it. That "man made in his image" stuff - is that a clue, or what? You need a deity that can process multiple sensory inputs as well as send coordinated control signals in lots of directions at the same time, a CNS that's organized around multivariate analysis...

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    Or, at the very least...

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    You following the logic here???

    Candles. Duuude. Unless they're black ones arranged in pentacles, that's just fundamentally wrong.
     
    #32     Sep 23, 2019
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  3. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    Arrrrrrr, Matey!!! And you DO realize that we just passed September 19th, don't you?!?

    "Ra-men!"
     
    #33     Sep 23, 2019
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  4. traider

    traider

    how can you out delta hedge the machines? They have almost 0 transaction costs or are paid hefty rebates and also have speed advantage
     
    #34     Sep 23, 2019
  5. taowave

    taowave

    Trade the S&P options vs futures.....

    Sell Vol 3+ months out if and when you deem it rich...

    If rebates or transaction costs are a concern,you are in the wrong trade


     
    #35     Sep 23, 2019
  6. CannonTrading_Ilan

    CannonTrading_Ilan Sponsor


    I like selling vertical call spreads or vertical put spreads. anything between 30-70 days depending on the market and premium. I have experimented with selling diagonals but found out that for my specific situation/time etc. picking a don the market is not going to and using vertical for protection works best.

    At rare times I will do ration spreads when volatility is extremely high, like buying a gold 1600 call and selling 1 1650 calls if I can get credit.....

    This is just personal / general preferences i am sharing.
     
    #36     Sep 23, 2019
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  7. ffs1001

    ffs1001

    ^ Reading a simple trade related post like this is a breath of fresh air. Sometimes all the talk of vomma, volatility surfaces, kurtosis, microstructure, forward implied forecast vol, synthetic this, natural that, actual realised implied triple-legged high-winged broken-nosed skew etc, makes for a heavy read.

    I trade a lot of credit spreads. When the SPX hit 3020, I sold Oct 3075-3100 calls.
    I'm also doing diagonals, as they allow me to fine tune my theta/vega.

    Do you mean "Selling 2 1650 calls"? Otherwise, this is just a debit spread.
     
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    #37     Sep 24, 2019
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  8. Wheezooo

    Wheezooo

    "If rebates or transaction costs are a concern,you are in the wrong trade"

    ...Funny, I'd say if rebates and transaction costs aren't a concern to you, you are in the wrong trade.
     
    #38     Sep 24, 2019
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  9. Wheezooo

    Wheezooo

    You're picking this up quickly :)
     
    #39     Sep 24, 2019
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  10. Oh, heck yeah! A close friend of Cap'n Slappy's and I used to hang out in a USENET group, and she turned me onto it in the early days. Besides, after working Ren Faire for a couple of years and singing sea chanteys as one of The Bilge Rats in St. Augustine (sung in the key of "ARRRR", of course), my friends would disown me if I dared to miss it!

    "Avast, ye scurvy scalawags! Shiver me timbers if I don't masthead a dozen o'ye - where's my grog?"


    And may the sauce be with you, too!
     
    #40     Sep 24, 2019
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