When Selling Options, What Delta & Expiration Date Do YOU Like?

Discussion in 'Options' started by zghorner, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. Bum

    Bum

    Hence, the reason for my "cliff" comment.
     
    #11     Sep 17, 2019
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  2. ironchef

    ironchef

    Unless OP is doing covered writes. Then OP's risk adjusted returns should be somewhat better than the underlying (e.g. BXM, PUT). However, I don't think OP is going to get any extra absolute returns compare to the underlying.

    If OP writes naked, you are right.

    And according to @Meverick74, if OP wants to write, the best is ATM because if the bet goes against OP, gamma softens the fall.
     
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    #12     Sep 17, 2019
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  3. traider

    traider

    What is the name of this fund?
     
    #13     Sep 17, 2019
  4. marameo

    marameo

    I assume one will tend to short options to capitalize on time decay and decreasing volatility as well. Why not trade strategies such as butterfly or (reverse) iron condor where net debit = max loss; the premium will increase (to a redemption value) as time goes by - and volatility goes down, if the underlying is in-the-range. "inline" warrants works this way.
     
    #14     Sep 18, 2019
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  5. ET180

    ET180

    Derivatives can be less risky than trading the underlying. Depends on how you use them.
     
    #15     Sep 18, 2019
  6. Baozi

    Baozi

    If you really have to short, always go for the straddle/narrow strangle where gamma is highest and you are paid for the risk you take, never for the wings.

    If things go bad (and they will) at least you'll have more time to see the freight train coming.
     
    #16     Sep 18, 2019
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  7. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    While I appreciate what you're saying, :thumbsup:, don't try to work an expectancy calculation on that -- it won't go well. :(

    (Hence, working the wings: working the "edge" of smallness/adroitness to take advantageous positions before the market knows them to be advantageous.:rolleyes: )
     
    #17     Sep 19, 2019
  8. Baozi

    Baozi

    @tommcginnis haha you got me.. Been trying to do that for a while now, and I am starting to see some promising results.

    So far, the best (naked) premium selling strategy seems to be a sort of asymmetric straddle (very similar to destriero's pitchforks), with the P/L curve adjusted so that it mimics the most likely distribution.

    Again, I play on an index that got upside/downside capped (and historically never move more than 5% in a day) so probably this doesn't translate well to US markets.
     
    #18     Sep 19, 2019
  9. robertSt

    robertSt

    I no longer try to avoid having it go in the money by picking a strike below the current price. I sell near at the money strikes, that's where the most time value is. Then I adjust.
     
    #19     Sep 21, 2019
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  10. Amahrix

    Amahrix

    May I ask if you know that the P&L of an option is not from time decay?
     
    #20     Sep 22, 2019