When is Strategy a good one..?

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by Wippi1817, Apr 11, 2020.

  1. lovethetrade

    lovethetrade Guest

    On ignore, troll.

    You never know, one day you might actually post something of value rather than being an effective troll. Can't say I'm holding my breath though. You're simply an unfortunate beneficiary of other people's goodwill.
     
    #11     Apr 12, 2020
  2. traider

    traider

    With enough trades, metrics like sharpe ratio or profit factor is good. Problem is most strategies will never reach that stage.
     
    #12     Apr 12, 2020
  3. FTDK

    FTDK

    One number on its own is meaningless, you just confirmed that. You need other variables to make sure the numbers have reliable meaning, like number of trades.

    Even then profit factor on its own doesn't say anything about draw down or other numbers that can give you an indication about past risk.
     
    #13     Apr 12, 2020
  4. I would not agree on that one - profit factor is not enough
     
    #14     Apr 12, 2020
  5. Yes I agree - I must be more precise - I want to measure a strategy on a selftrading system (bot) - for the first step I want to compare it to buy and hold - the interesting part is that I make money also in long term (e.g. 2 years data) but is this enough? no I dont think so - as you wrote I think I have to monitor risk as well....
     
    #15     Apr 12, 2020
  6. That means netprofit in % max drawdown and a growing ROR curve or?
     
    #16     Apr 12, 2020
  7. Attaches some values:

    Strategy 1: (1 year data - 30min timeframes)

    NetProfit: 91.66 %
    GrossProfit: 155.52 %
    GrossLoss: -63.86 %
    Profit Faktor: 2.4352
    Gain2Pain Ratio: 1.4352
    Number of Trades: 69
    Number of Winning Trades: 28
    Number of Loosing Trades: 41
    Max Drawdown: currently unknown (not calc. yet)


    Strategy 2: (1 year data several timeframe)
    NetProfit: 299.55 %
    GrossProfit: 732.86 %
    GrossLoss: -433.31 %
    Profit Faktor: 1.6913
    Gain2Pain Ratio: 0.6913
    Number of Trades: 557
    Number of Winning Trades: 186
    Number of Loosing Trades: 371
    Max Drawdown: -30%

    I think I have to much lossing trades...
     
    #17     Apr 12, 2020
  8. taowave

    taowave

    Cmon.....

    You seriously believe that your pitch gets you anything more than coffee and a donut at a hedge fund capital raise???

     
    #18     Apr 12, 2020
  9. ionone

    ionone

    I think a strategy is good when it makes money, with low DD (<20%)
    over 28 pairs for 20 years on 9 timeframes with zero spread (just to know the edge)

    AND

    when it has only a few parameters to avoid curve fitting

    good luck with that

    Jeff
     
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2020
    #19     Apr 13, 2020
  10. IamaMars

    IamaMars

    In fact, there are some other important points, a strategy must be clear to you so that you can apply it on the market not only mechanically (well, there because the level is strong), but also with an understanding of its features and construction in general. You should understand that one strategy cannot work on all types of assets, so most likely you should have more than one. If we talk about stability and profit indicators - you have identified the right figures for yourself, of course they are approximate, but if you reach such a yield, then you will have nothing to worry about, especially if you trade regularly and generally well navigate the market, so as not to miss the most profitable price bursts.
     
    #20     Apr 14, 2020