|When are Sanders and Warren going to make their deal?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Sep 6, 2019.

  1. Joe be working full time to get her elected too.
     
    #11     Sep 6, 2019
  2. UsualName

    UsualName

    It’s actually Harris that is working full time to get anyone but her and Biden the nomination. I have never seen a candidate for office continuously pick the wrong Apple at every opportunity.

    Theoretically, if she would have moderated at that second debate instead of going full steam into the leading moderate she would be sitting very pretty right now. Instead she is in no mans land on the far left talking about the virtues of paper straws. It’s mind blowing how poorly she is running her campaign and the strategy is awful.
     
    #12     Sep 6, 2019
  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    I think she thought she was going to automatically get the Obama black vote and had no back up plan.
     
    #13     Sep 6, 2019
  4. I have consistently spoken to that generically by repeatedly saying that "she is too stupid" to win and eventually people will discover that.

    You have offered up some exhibits of such and same.


    That Montana guy is ten times the candidate she is but he is white and from a rural, non-coastal state, and came in late - so that's fifty or sixty strikes against him right there.
     
    #14     Sep 6, 2019
  5. UsualName

    UsualName

    She may have erroneously expected that a lot of black voters would support her but what she is doing is misreading the temperature of where the party is at.
     
    #15     Sep 6, 2019
  6. She has an uneasy relationship with blacks. Not only for her lock-em-up background- but the Jamaican-Asian Indian thing is not considered to be of deep African-American heritage. Obama went through some of that too but he had charm and charisma and brains to flesh it out a bit. Kamala? Not so much.

    Biden is practically going full Guiliani these days. He and his campaign speak tepidly about whether it matters a whole lot whether he wins New Hampshire and Iowa but - not to worry- because he has SC in his hip pocket. Yeh, right. You will recall that that was Rudy's strategy too- he was just going to focus on winning Florida. Howd that work out?

    And of course Kamala wants South Carolina too and thinks that being a semi-black and having sorority sisters there or something like that is her ticket.

    Pocahonky is the only one in the crowd running a decent game on the ground nationally and in the early primary states. That does not mean she does not have major, major problems in SC being a white honky or an indian or whatever. But she sees that and is trying to compensate by not being stupid all across the country in other states. It's the best she can do, but she is doing it. You milk every state as hard as you can as Trump did. You dont pick one state as Biden and Rudy did that is going to save you or cross states off as Hillary did. I would not turn my back on the indian girl. Those natives are sneaky. But biden, bernie, skankala, etc. Let em do what they gotta do. I can't be bothered in the long run.
     
    #16     Sep 6, 2019
  7. UsualName

    UsualName

    I don’t see Warren doing spectacular anywhere. As a matter of fact, her New Hampshire numbers are just as awful as her South Carolina numbers.

    Youre worried about Biden winning Iowa or New Hampshire and getting some momentum, but you should really check in on Warren because she is looking like if she doesn’t win Iowa she may not ever win a state.
     
    #17     Sep 6, 2019
  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Biden currently has the majority of the black vote and moderate white vote and has been in the lead the entire time because of that.His campaign is nothing like Guilianis and they are not running a one state strategy campaign .
     
    #18     Sep 6, 2019
  9. Nothing will happen until a few primaries are in the books to confirm chances.
     
    #19     Sep 6, 2019
  10. Well, you are preaching to the choir on some of this stuff because I said that my belief is that what is holding Biden's up for so long is the fact that people have enthusiasm for him but they don't like any of the candidates below. As I have said many times, this is not like with Hillary and Obama. Once they lost interest in Hillary, they knew exactly where they wanted to go.

    Bernie is tying up a lot of votes in New Hampshire so that makes it mess for the others. Yet, Bernie is not going to be the nominee.

    It's a mess. As I clarify every other day, no one - and I mean no one- should think that just because I believe that Joe will go down and Warren will be the nominee- after some highly tortuous and contorted process- that I do not recognize what lousy, lousy, lousy candidate she will be. She is wall to wall problems. But she is still ahead of bernie and joe in the end.

    Trumps got problems too.
     
    #20     Sep 6, 2019