When An Option Increases Nearly 9,000%

Discussion in 'Options' started by Fundlord, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. K-Pia

    K-Pia

    Psychology...
    It has nothing to do with it.
    If you don't have real incentive then psychology.
    But if you know that you have an edge and well sized positions.
    Everyone will be willing to endure those drawdowns.
    Not because they are bold or courageous.
    But because if they stop right now,
    They simply break the rules.
    And make it collapse.

    It's true it's painful to take a loss for a newbie.
    But for the experienced trader. it's part of the game.
    After there is drawdowns and blow up (Unexpected Drawdowns).
    And drawdowns are relative. I tried a 10% winning strategy with 15 R:R.
    It wasn't profitable but at least I learnt that taking losses are part of the game.

    And I would recommand to everyone such an experiment.
    Either to fortify the heart. Or to open a new world for the strategist.
     
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    #11     Jan 31, 2016
  2. Jakobsberg

    Jakobsberg

    Hehe - Love this quote above - Yeah they are much more certain, so much more certain in fact that they pleaded guilty to insider trading.

    If the options are "priced correctly" relative to the stock and you buy them often enough (not big positions to blow your account) I suspect you will just end up with the typical stock market return. However the options spread is often large for smaller companies and as other have indicated its a difficult strategy for most peoples psychology.
     
    #12     Jan 31, 2016
  3. nursebee

    nursebee

    AXLL is a poor example, anchoring ones mind to a gamblers mentality.
     
    #13     Jan 31, 2016
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  4. londonkid

    londonkid

    Yeah in my experience traders who continually swing for the fence lose over time. Not referencing OP. The classic is a fast directional move that gets the losing traders juiced up. Meanwhile the pros take profits when the newbs react they get in while its quiet.
     
    #14     Jan 31, 2016
  5. Try it. o_O be a doer. -- not a question asker and asker. :confused:
     
    #15     Jan 31, 2016
  6. Of course buying the straddle is another strategy for a situation where there could be an explosive move. Not sure of the profitability of this strategy...would be interesting to see some backtested results. I would guess around a 30-40% win rate at best.
     
    #16     Jan 31, 2016
  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    You are so right. The pain and joy of going long on options. In the interest of sharing experiences, been there done that.:(
     
    #17     Jan 31, 2016
  8. .
    i actually like the idea of the Straddle, a little, although
    i admit i've never tried this one particular strategy :D
    [you aren't always going to lose 100% of your money with it]

    in the end - the best guesser wins, the most, i guess :banghead:

    marc
    :cool:
     
    #18     Jan 31, 2016
  9. Your idea is a form of hedging
     
    #19     Feb 1, 2016
  10. Agreed, but only backtesting will indicate whether taking a directional approach or a hedged approach is more profitable in the long run.
     
    #20     Feb 1, 2016