When a country gets out of line...

Discussion in 'Economics' started by SouthAmerica, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. Nothing is stopping a righteous person from applying for a job @GS, work your way up and change the corporate culture.
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    Nutmeg. Your looking at it all wrong. The above statement is insane and not possible. The "Immoral" actions Corporate Socialism of those in power will never change by some 'Righteous Person making his way to the top. That person would never make it to the top in reality.

    YOU MUST TEAR DOWN THE SYSTEM IN ORDER TO RESTORE THE VERY FABRIC OF CAPITALISM!

    That is the only way the SYSTEM we have is going to change.

    This is reality not fantasy.

    REVOLUTION by either PEN or FORCE....but there must be a Revolution.

    However most Americans are to pathetic and weak in their mental state to warrant a Revolution. The most probable outcome will be States in the South West Region, breaking away from the rest of the country and its fucking madness. States like Alabama, Texas, AZ and even West as North Dakota and Utah.

    This is starting to take shape now as you watch these states pass more laws in favor of "States Rights" and start to break away from the Fed Gov.
     
    #11     Jun 9, 2011
  2. June 9, 2011

    SouthAmerica: Reply to Toc

    Toc, Gaddafi was doing a lot of good things for Libya and the Libyan people, but he was not a puppet of the western powers and he was independent from their circle of influence.

    Libya had its finances under control, and they did not need the IMF and World Bank, and Gaddafi was taking care of the Libyan people.

    Gaddafi became a major threat to the United States because he wanted to establish a new currency based on gold for the oil producing countries of the Middle East.

    Gaddafi is doing everything he can to protect his country and the Libyan people from NATO and the USA.

    The other Arab states did not come to help Gaddafi and the Libyan people, but they will be sorry for their silence on this matter, because what is happening to Libya today is going to happen in country after country in the oil producing states of the Middle East until they have pillaged all the assets of these Arab states.

    Every country will have its turn regarding being pillaged including Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, and so on....before these fools realize all their assets will be frozen and pillaged to the last cent.

    And all this pillage it will be done in the name of democracy and in helping these poor people to put in power some new puppet of the western powers.
     
    #12     Jun 9, 2011
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    Libya had $4B of debt to Russia which G asked to be forgiven if Russians wanted a $4B contract to build a subway system in Tripoli. Why should Russia forgive the debt and when Libya had $100B in assets overseas? Stupid Russians did forgive the debt but wonder why?

    Then these STUPID Russians did not veto the UN 1973 resolution and had their ally butt beaten out in public. Russia had more than $10B of arms and economic contracts in the pipeline for Libya. Now they stand to lose it all if G is gone.

    Despite of seeing the trends in the world since 1990s, G should not have killed and maimed common civilians and instead offered them a good step by step plan for social and economic reforms.

    I do not believe in 'shock thereapy' treatment of society and economics. Brazil, India, China benefited from 'slow steady strong'gameplan of reforms. Russia got beggered as a result of implementing US advised 'shock therapy' and were on the verge of bankruptcy and food riots on the streets. Stupid Russians thought that west will arrive with suitcases full of dollars and what actually happened was starvation and shame.

    What NATO is trying to do is implement 'shock thereapy' on Libya but they are ok as Libyans are not NATO's people and pain and suffering inflicted is fine, did not people in Iraq suffer as a result of sanctions, so why not Libyans. It is a NATO world!
     
    #13     Jun 9, 2011
  4. June 9, 2011

    SouthAmerica: Reply to EMRGLOBAL

    American style of capitalism = 54,000 jobs created in May 2011.

    Hah, hah, hah......

    What a joke.....

    Countries are starting to catch on about American type of capitalism – Argentina used to be the poster boy of American capitalism until the house of cards had a complete collapse – and the Argentinean economy became a complete basket case.

    Follow the US type of capitalism and your country end up in the poor house after everything in sight have been pillaged.

    On the other hand state capitalism lifted the boats of about 400 million people in China in the last 20 years.

    And at the same time American capitalism sunk the boat of over 200 million Americans in the last 20 years.

    American capitalism has placed 50 million Americans on the food stamp program, and the United States number of homeless people today is moving very fast to reach the number of homeless people the US had during the Great Depression of the 1930's.

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    #14     Jun 9, 2011
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    'And at the same time American capitalism sunk the boat of over 200 million Americans in the last 20 years.'

    Give me credit card of $14 Trillion limit and I will also make little poor country like Haiti...................a biggest superpower in the world not seen since the time of Genghiz Khan in the 15th century.


    :D :cool: :p
     
    #15     Jun 9, 2011
  6. SA I know your brain is the size of grain of sand so, I'll cut you a break.

    We no longer have Capitalism as a whole. The majority of American's voted in Socialism and will probably do the same vote in 2012. However, capitalism is alive in small pockets in Pro-Business States.

    American Socialism has placed 50 million Americans on the food stamp program, and the United States number of homeless people today is moving very fast to reach the number of homeless people the US had during the Great Depression of the 1930's.

    America is a pure Corporate Socialism with in the Public Sector, including Wallstreet and both Parties are to blame.

    The Private sector, which is the very last champions of Capitalism, is shrinking.

    Second, all this you speak of has not effected my two businesses nor has it really made much difference in the state I'm living in. In fact, the Depression in the rest of the country has created a start in a serious boom cycle, from Hydrocarbon to Medical. People I know are making shit tones of money, hand over fist. Even out Construction numbers in the state have firmed up and many new projects have been funded, private and public.

    I think you need to stick to Academics, I doubt you could survive in a Capitalistic society.
     
    #16     Jun 9, 2011
  7. June 9, 2011

    SouthAmerica: Reply to EMRGLOBAL

    This mess did not happen in the last 10 years – this sad state of affairs happened during a long period of time under an obsolete economic system.

    The crumbling infrastructure of the United States looks like the infrastructure of a 3rd world country, and it needs at least $ 3 trillion dollars just to keep from deteriorating any further.

    The country has over 40 million people (more than half with a college degree) who are unemployed or would like to find a full time job.

    The US does not have only the human capital available, the US has a ton of money available for investment.

    And you have the balls to tell me that the American capitalist system it is an efficient economic system.

    You are saying: my capitalist system is so efficient that I can't figure out how to employ 40 million unemployed people with the money that is available to build the collapsing infrastructure of the United States.

    Up dating an infrastructure that it is very important for the economic future of the country.

    Here is the result of your very efficient capitalist system:

    The Crumbling of America
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBSPcIGGcIc

    The sad reality is that the United States is collapsing just like the Soviet Union – the collapse is already underway, and it is reaching an advanced stage.

    The special status of the US dollar being the main global reserve currency it has reached the end of the line – the international monetary system is in deep trouble, and everything it seems to be getting out of control.

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    #17     Jun 9, 2011
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    'Up dating an infrastructure that it is very important for the economic future of the country.'

    Agree completely.


    :D :D :cool: :p
     
    #18     Jun 9, 2011
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