Wheat Planting Decisions.

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  1. kanellop


    Hello Again to All.

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    Tuesday 08/14/2012

    Wheat Planting Decisions

    Good article here from the Kansas State extension service on the difficult choices wheat growers face in making plans for seeding winter wheat in the southern Plains this fall.--Bryce

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    Wheat Producers Have Options

    For Planting Into Dry Soils

    MANHATTAN, Kan. – Soils are generally very dry in much of Kansas, which presents an all-too-familiar dilemma to wheat producers, said Jim Shroyer, K-State Research and Extension crop production specialist.

    “Wheat producers faced with very dry soils basically have three main options, and these haven’t changed over the years. Do I ‘dust in’ the seed and hope for rain, plant deeper than normal to place the seed into moisture, or just hold off and wait for rain before planting?” Shroyer said. “There are pros and cons to each option.”

    Dusting in the wheat at the normal seeding depth and normal planting date is probably the best option, Shroyer said. The seed will remain viable in the soil until it gets enough moisture, he said.

    Before planting, producers should look at the long-term forecast and try to estimate how long the dry conditions will persist, he added. This will help determine the best seeding rate to use.

    “If it looks like there’s a good chance the dry weather will continue until at least the back end of the optimum range of planting dates, producers should treat the fields as if they were planting later than the optimum time. Rather than cutting back on seeding rates and fertilizer to save money on a lost cause, producers should increase seeding rates, consider using a fungicide seed treatment, and consider using a starter fertilizer,” the K-State agronomist explained.

    “The idea is to make sure the wheat gets off to a good start and will have enough heads to have good yield potential, assuming it will eventually rain and the crop will emerge late,” he said. “Wheat that emerges in November almost always has fewer fall tillers than wheat that emerges in September or October.”

    There are some risks to dusting-in wheat, he cautions. For one thing, a hard rain could crust over the soil or wash soil off planting ridges and into the seed furrows, potentially causing emergence problems, he said.

    Probably the worst-case scenario for this option would be if a light rain occurs and the seed gets just enough moisture to germinate the seed but not enough for the seedlings to emerge through the soil or to survive very long if dry conditions return, he added. This could result in a loss of the stand.

    Another option would be to plant deeper-than-normal into moisture during the optimal planting time, if possible, Shroyer said. This option can work if the variety to be planted has a long coleoptile, the producer is using a hoe drill, and there is good moisture within reach.

    “The advantage of this option is that the crop may come up and make a stand during the optimum time in the fall. This would keep the soil from blowing. Also, the ridges created by hoe drills also help keep the soil from blowing,” he said.

    The main risk of this option is poor emergence, he cautioned. Deep-planted wheat normally has below-normal emergence, so a higher seeding rate should be used, he said.

    “Generally speaking, it’s best to plant no deeper than 3 inches with most varieties,” he said.

    Finally, producers might simply decide to wait for a rain, and then plant, the K-State agronomist said.

    “Under the right conditions, this would result in good stands, assuming the producer uses a high seeding rate and a starter fertilizer, if appropriate. If it remains dry well past the optimum range of planting dates, the producer would then have the option of just keeping the wheat seed in the shed until next fall and planting spring crop next year instead,” he said.

    The risk of this option is that the weather may turn rainy and stay wet later this fall, preventing the producer from planting the wheat at all while those who “dusted” their wheat in have a good stand, he said. There is also the risk of leaving the soil unprotected from the wind through the winter until the spring crop is planted, he said.

    Crop insurance considerations and deadlines will play a role in these decisions, Shroyer added.

    Posted at 2:10PM CDT 08/14/12 by Bryce Anderson


    Kind Regards,

    George Kanellopoulos.
  2. now George, we talked to you about this, if it's just another fundamental report you should post it under the George!! thread, it's still alive and well and someday will make interesting reading when we see how the season plays out, but when you continually start new threads it makes it hard for someone who is looking for specific ag information.

    good luck and thanks for the report
  3. Agreed this Ag Futures section is getting hard to read with every post warranting a new thread.
  4. compania



    Got 2 Q for you :

    1. What is the best Cash Benchmark for each Grain product, in order to get a sense of direction for the futures market (e.g ; HRW IL or maybe Hutchinson ) ? and for the Soy complex as well .

    2. How come the Cash for SRW is higher than the HRS (on DTN national index) ? Should the higher Protein be with a premium ?

    Thanks :)
  5. I don't know, but there was a time, I think back when Nixon was president, and they made a big effort to practically give away wheat to asia, in hopes of converting them from rice to Bulgar Wheat, or what those of us that eat the refined version call cous cous, but it never worked. The pathetic thing is, if you really want to eat soybeans you can buy an edible version in a little plastic bag at Walmart, but they are only grown in Asia. Wheat is tuff because it can go both ways. You can eat it or you can feed it. Your idea of a protein scale is a good one. People like corn. Not because it produces protein, but because it produces fat. I'm probably too old, but if you are young you may see a preference for grass fed beef. We are already seeing it for grass fed dairy.
  6. ixus


    I think it has gotten to the stage where you have to report George's postings as spam. It just clogs up the forum.
  7. Joe


    George, Please keep general article's in one thread. Continuing to post in the manner you do will result in a ban.

    Thank you,
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